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    I think everyone knows about the Manson killings.
    http://www.google.com/intl/en/#hl=en...a9ebdd6e7f36e2

    I'd never thought about the possibility of the killings' having been a black op until I listened to this radio program.
    http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=25600

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    The program disappeared from the above link. I entered "Manson" in the search feature and the program came up.
    http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/41132

    If this disappears too, try entering "Manson" in the search feature of the first link.
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    The first link leads to nothing but the second link still works. If it stops working, goggle this.

    "Guns and Butter April 2, 2008"

    ""Charles Manson and the Crushing of the Counter Culture"
    With researcher and broadcaster, Mae Brussell. Originally aired in October 1971 on her radio program, Dialogue: Assassination, this show reveals Manson as a patsy and analyzes the so-called Manson murders as a premeditated political massacre designed to destroy the social and political revolution taking place in the late 60s."
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    Here's an article about it but the above audio clip goes into a lot more detail.
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread36865/pg1
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    Manson was in prison during the time that the CIA was known to be using inmates at Vacaville prison in the MKULTRA experiments, a fact that leaves one to speculate that perhaps Manson was some sort of mind-controlled guru created by the CIA and set loose against the "subversive" left-wing elements in order to discredit them.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_op

    The theory is that the government wanted to discredit the counter culture.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter...counterculture

    It doesn't sound like such a far-fetched theory when we consider all the other stuff the US government has pulled off. I think everybody has seen "Terror Storm".
    https://www.google.es/webhp?sourceid...rstorm&spell=1

    http://911review.com/articles/anon/f...perations.html

    People were figuring out that the govenment was lying to them about why they were in Vietnam. The counter-culture was thinking independently. The government was losing it's ability to form the people's political thinking. Whether it was a black op or not, the government used it to discredit the movement.

    http://www.chss.montclair.edu/englis...skyin1282.html
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    Q: When the Indochina war ended in 1975 you wrote that our nation's "official" opinion makers would engage in distortion of the lessons to be drawn from the war so that the same basic foreign policy goals could be pursued after the war. You felt then that in order to keep the real meaning of the war from penetrating the general public they faced two major tasks: First, they would have to disguise the fact that the war "was basically an American attack on South Vietnam -- a war of annihilation that spilled over to the rest of Indochina". And secondly, they would have to obscure the fact that the military effort in Vietnam "was restrained by a mass movement of protest and resistance here at home which engaged in effective direct action outside the bounds of propriety long before established spokesmen proclaimed themselves to be its leaders". Where do we stand now on these two issues--seven years later?
    Chomsky: As far as the opinion makers are concerned, they have been doing exactly what it was obvious they would do. Every book that comes out, every article that comes out, talks about how -- while it may have been a "mistake" or an "unwise effort" -- the United States was defending South Vietnam from North Vietnamese aggression. And they portray those who opposed the war as apologists for North Vietnam. That's standard to say.
    The purpose is obvious: to obscure the fact that the United States did attack South Vietnam and the major war was fought against South Vietnam. The real invasion of South Vietnam which was directed largely against the rural society began directly in 1962 after many years of working through mercenaries and client groups. And that fact simply does not exist in official American history. There Is no such event in American history as the attack on South Vietnam. That's gone. Of course, It Is a part of real history. But it's not a part of official history.
    And most of us who were opposed to the war, especially in the early 60's -- the war we were opposed to was the war on South Vietnam which destroyed South Vietnam's rural society. The South was devastated. But now anyone who opposed this atrocity is regarded as having defended North Vietnam. And that's part of the effort to present the war as if it were a war between South Vietnam and North Vietnam with the United States helping the South. Of course it's fabrication. But it's "official truth" now.
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    http://michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html
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    By "imperialism" I mean the process whereby the dominant politico-economic interests of one nation expropriate for their own enrichment the land, labor, raw materials, and markets of another people.
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    North American and European corporations have acquired control of more than three-fourths of the known mineral resources of Asia, Africa, and Latin America.
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    Of the various notions about imperialism circulating today in the United States, the dominant view is that it does not exist. Imperialism is not recognized as a legitimate concept, certainly not in regard to the United States. One may speak of "Soviet imperialism" or "nineteenth-century British imperialism" but not of U.S. imperialism. A graduate student in political science at most universities in this country would not be granted the opportunity to research U.S. imperialism, on the grounds that such an undertaking would not be scholarly. While many people throughout the world charge the United States with being an imperialist power, in this country persons who talk of U.S. imperialism are usually judged to be mouthing ideological blather.
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    A lot of people were finding out what was really going on. It makes sense that the government would try to discredit the movement.

    I think almost everybody has seen videos like these which deal with the US government's mind-control program.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOARWX3OjFc

    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...a+mind+control

    It seems they had the capability to turn a person into a robot and program him to do whatever they wanted him to do and then erase his memory.

    I'm not saying I'm sure about all of this. I'm just saying it fits the pattern and I won't be a bit surprised if it turns out to be true.
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    Oh, NO!!!

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    Makes sense to me.

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    Sounds feasible

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    I believe it.

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    who caresssssssss

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    Lol, run along little sheep.

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    Where do you kids come up with this ?

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    Youre an idiot.

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    It seems they had the capability to turn a person into a robot and program him to do whatever they wanted him to do and then erase his memory.
    Could they make me forget I opened this thread?

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    Could they make me forget I opened this thread?
    Nothing can make you forget this thread
    Nitrous oxide should help you ease the pain
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    Oh boy.

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    Reading Helter Skelter freaked me out back in the day.

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    Reading Helter Skelter freaked me out back in the day.
    Thank you Joe!!!

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    Reading Helter Skelter freaked me out back in the day.
    That was just part of the government cover-up to make you think Charlie wasn't a robot.

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    If it was a government op, don't you think they'd have taught Squeaky how to CHAMBER A ROUND when using a semi-automatic pistol?

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    That was just part of the government cover-up to make you think Charlie wasn't a robot.
    this robot !!!

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    That was just part of the government cover-up to make you think Charlie wasn't a robot.
    Damnit... Good read though..

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    If it was a government op, don't you think they'd have taught Squeaky how to CHAMBER A ROUND when using a semi-automatic pistol?
    If it was a government job then it doesn't surprise me at all.

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    Mouse thread.

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    Where do you kids come up with this ?
    In the "Political Conspiracies" section of the Education forum there are a lot of posts by a truth-seeker named Peter Lemkin.
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...ilter=all&st=0

    He does a lot of research and shares what he finds on that forum. Look for his posts. He posts some pretty interesting stuff.

    You people seem to have the idea that I'm sure that the Manson killings were a government black op. Go back and read the last part of post #1. I distinctly said I wasn't sure.

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    You certainly do entertain and pass on a lot of bull conspiracy theories.

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    I am wondering if this Connecticut shooting was another black operation. Here's a thread from another forum. I'm kind of thinking the way this person is.

    http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=24230.0
    (excerpt from reply #18)
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    Now as far as this being a false flag, I don't have enough info yet to make a determination one way or the other. I know it's the first thing that pops into my head as soon as I hear anything like this. Regardless, our enemies will use this situation to exploit the death of these babies (and that's exactly what they were, babies) to push forward their agenda once again. As always, the timing of this makes me seriously wonder and sets off an alarm inside my skull.
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    It's much too early to tell but this is perfect for the government's agenda to take guns away from Americans. It would be a lot easier for the government to control things in a police state if nobody had any guns.

    The government has the capability to carry out black operations and it's quite capable of killing children; if it was capable of killing three thousand Americans on September 11, what's twenty children to them.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746

    It might turn out that this was done by a crazy but the idea that it was a government black operation is not far-fetched at all.

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