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Seriously, who do you think should replace Pop?
Everybody wants him to go, but who is their better than him to coach this team?
theres no ing heart or leader on this team who has the balls to call out his team and player even dumb coach NOW who puts the most stupidest lineups im sorry but i disagree with yall hating on jefferson he's not the problem but we have such a dumbass coach NOW that doesnt know how to use talent
Seriously, who do you think should replace Pop?
Everybody wants him to go, but who is their better than him to coach this team?
Argh, bad loss. I live near L.A and everyone at school knows I am a Spurs fan. I am going to get a lot of crap from everyone tomorrow. Ugh.
Good game by the Lakers though. Gasol played well. He really needs to be more aggressive when going up though. A lot of missed lay-ins.
Spurs need to get better though. We could have definitely won this game, but we didn't put in enough effort. It's not like the Lakers were playing unstoppable basketball. Artest shot 6-16, Gasol was 8-20 and Brown shot freaking 3-13. This wasn't God like basketball. We could have won this game.
The problem was our offense. We had way too many possessions that ended with a jumpshot. We didn't do enough penetration or posting up. I don't know why we didn't post up with Timmy until like the last two minutes. Very weird. I know he struggled a little bit, but that's no excuse. Gasol wasn't going to stop him all game. And he didn't have the score, just let him get the ball on the block and get the offense moving. Timmy creates offense.
And this small ball crap needs to go. No more playing Richard Jefferson at Power Forward and Dejuan Blair at Center. I mean seriously, what is that? Simply put, it doesn't work. Maybe you can get a few flashy Regular Season Home wins with that small ball crap, but it doesn't work in the Playoffs and it doesn't work against real teams like the Lakers. What was the point of signing Theo Ratliff if we weren't going to use him?
Well, at least Ginobili and Tony played fantastic. Ginobili had 21 points on 7-11 shooting and Parker had 20 points on 50% shooting, along with 8 assists. Very nice. Our Frontcourt just didn't do a good enough job. Well, enough of my pointless rambling. Hopefully the Spurs will play better in Denver this Thursday. Ugh, Denver.
Is Timmy of all people becoming someone we can't trust when it matters? He was a flat out ghost in the 4th quarter. Credit to Pau maybe but Tim.
But the blame right now is on RJ. There's something about his at ude the rubs off on the rest of the role players...Bogans, Mason, etc. He has done nothing but negatively impact this team and I want him ing out of here.
Okay, he's got four les we understand. But, this thing is falling apart at the seams and the coach is always the first person held accountable.
1 Minute left, he got the ball in the post and pounded Gasol, I know he's carried the Spurs this season but waiting until the final minute to start being aggressive and attacking the paint is complete horse .
Ginobili did the exact same thing, waiting until the final minute to attack.
Wow just wow I thought Spurs by 6 ...tough game to swallow ...
I agree though I dont blame pop but if RJ was in triangle id think with the way he cuts he could be useful ..he seems like bad fit with Parker IMHO ...
But he seems to have lost confidence ...
Dfish and Sasha seem to enjoy playing Spurs ...
STILL dont think Spurs are done ... but if yu are you will be missed ... classy team
If the Spurs owe anyone class it's to themselves and to us fans. They quit, they have no class. them if they don't adjust down the stretch.
Updated.
Lakers beat Spurs 101-89 without Bryant, Bynum
By Beth Harris
No Kobe, still no problem for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Pau Gasol had 21 points, 19 rebounds, eight assists and five blocked shots to lead five players in double figures, and Los Angeles beat the San Antonio Spurs 101-89 Monday night as Bryant missed his second consecutive game with a sore left ankle.
Andrew Bynum sat out with a bruised right hip.
In their absences, the Lakers used a collective effort to win in their final home game before this weekend’s All-Star break. Ron Artest added 18 points, Lamar Odom 16 points and 10 rebounds, and Jordan Farmar and Derek Fisher had 13 each.
“It’s got to be reassuring for the rest of the team and for the guys that don’t play that much that are now stepping up,” Gasol said. “It was fun. It was a good challenge for us. We played hard and got a nice win.”
Manu Ginobili scored 21 points, Tony Parker 20, Tim Duncan had 16 points and 15 rebounds and Antonio McDyess 12 rebounds for the Spurs, who have lost four in a row to the Lakers at Staples Center.
“We knew they were going to come hard and going to play hard,” Parker said. “Especially with Kobe out, you’re going to have guys who are going to step up and that’s what they did.”
Los Angeles again showed it could win without Bryant. The Lakers snapped a five-year losing streak at Portland with a victory Saturday, when Bryant ended his streak of 235 consecutive games played and Bynum missed the second half.
Bryant said he skipped another game because he can’t push off on his left foot.
“I can’t move to play. Can’t go,” he said, adding he would be a game-time decision Wednesday at Utah. “If I’m ready to go, I’ll play.”
Lakers trainer Gary Vitti would like Bryant to rest through All-Star weekend in Dallas. Bryant said he couldn’t commit either way at this point.
“I don’t know what it’s going to look like on Sunday. I’m not clairvoyant,” he said, laughing. “I’m not an idiot. If it’s an injury where I feel like I can play through it and have it heal while I’m playing, then I’ll play. But if it’s the type of injury where it’s going to get worse when I play, then I won’t.”
The Lakers extended their lead to 81-70 early in the fourth, equaling their largest lead to that point, capped by Shannon Brown’s 3-pointer.
Mostly though, the final period was a messy affair, with the Spurs throwing the ball away on three occasions and the Lakers stumbling through a cold stretch after their strong start.
But they regrouped and ended the game on a 17-11 run after going 4 1/2 minutes without a field goal.
“We finished relatively well for a game that seemed to be a struggle,” Lakers coach Phil Jackson said. “I don’t think we’re playing that well, but we are winning the games. We settle in and play good defense. We can shoot the ball better than we are doing.”
Los Angeles led 68-57 on a 14-4 run in the third. Gasol scored seven in a row and Odom had three. But the Spurs closed the quarter with an 11-5 spurt, capped by Ginobili’s 3-pointer, to trail 73-68 going into the fourth.
“The Lakers were obviously a little shorthanded and played mentally tougher than we did and physically tougher than we did,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. “Don’t ask me why.”
Luke Walton, Sasha Vujacic, Farmar and Josh Powell started the second quarter for the Lakers along with Gasol. The youngsters’ energy paid off as the Lakers scored the first seven points to take their first lead since early in the game.
The Lakers made 5 of 6 free throws to end the half ahead 50-47.
The Spurs raced to a 9-0 lead to open the game before Artest sparked the Lakers’ offense with consecutive 3-pointers. Parker scored 12 of his 15 first-half points in the opening quarter when he wasn’t dishing off in traffic.
Notes: The Lakers improved to 55-33 without Bryant in the lineup. However, they’re 19-23 in 42 games without him since the 2003-04 season. … The Lakers tied the season series 1-1, having lost 105-85 at San Antonio on Jan. 12. … The oft-injured Spurs were completely healthy. … They fell to 10-11 on the road.
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I thought Timmy played Gasol well tonight. He played solid post defense and had three blocks. Gasol did most of his damage during that 8 or 9 minute stretch in second half with Blair on him.
And who taught Avery?
He shot a three-pointer to avoid a shotclock violation in a blowout against Sacramento in the playoffs and had the misfortune of nailing it.
Pop blew up at him and chained him to the doghouse.
Then swore from that day forward he'd rather lose with smallball than win with normalball.
Okay, that last part I made up.
Pop's coaching philosophy "The more you suck, The more you play!!". You hit a three, You block shots, You fight for rebounds.... You'll hit the bench!
That's what Warriors fans say about Don Nelson's decisions and strategies. He sends effective players to the bench for not apparent reason.
fml.you must not have watched the spurs lately.
damn took me 40 minutes to read every post in this thread. Well worth it. lol
ANyways...lots of you guys call out Kobe for demanding trades and saying "ship his ass out" about certain players. I think its time for Duncan to do somethign like that. None of you guys should be happy with the moves the SPurs are making. You guys are getting guys like Dice and , while other teams are getting Artest, Gasol, Kidd, Shaq, Carter etc. WTF?! lol
Hey, can anyone explain to me what went down between Duncan and coach Pop?? Was it something they showed during the broadcast?
Oh, and a old ass Kidd or O'Neal definitely wouldn't help this team out. In fact, they'd only compound our problems.
They showed Pop and Duncan on the bench after halftime before the third started. Pop was talking, Duncan was staring straight ahead, not looking at Pop. Some took that to mean Duncan was tuning him out.
O'Neal would be a major factor on this team.
O'Neal would have already publicly thrown under the bus.
Maybe. But he will piss on himself by saying Tim Duncan is the best big man in the history of the league or something like that.
Same guy that lost to Avery in the lone playoff series they played against each other. That and Avery actually gave a damn about teaching a team of soft offensive-minded players to play some defense. The golden st. series was (although hilarious) just a brutal matchup for Dallas.
Game Notes: Spurs at Lakers
With Bryant and Bynum out, Gasol goes off.
by Sean Ceglinsky
SLAM
Whoever said the Lakers couldn’t win without Kobe Bryant was sadly mistaken.
For the second time in as many games, the Purple and Gold went out and handled business, defeating the Spurs 101-89 on Monday night while No. 24 received treatment on his bum ankle and watched from the Staples Center sidelines.
The win comes days after Bryant missed an impressive 99-82 victory at Portland, snapping his string of playing in 235 consecutive games.
Speaking of impressive, Pau Gasol was impressive from start to finish against San Antonio. Seemingly unstoppable on both ends off the floor, he finished with 21 points, 19 rebounds, 8 assists and 5 blocks in 46 minutes of action.
Four other Lakers scored in double figures. Ron Artest had 18 points, Lamar Odom added 16 and Jordan Farmar and Derek Fisher ended up 13 points apiece. It’s worth noting that Shannon Brown and Sasha Vujacic had 8 each.
Apparently, Los Angeles isn’t a one-man show.
Bryant status for Wednesday’s game at Utah is unclear at this point, although he indicated that if he‘s capable of playing, giving it a go, that he‘ll be out there in the lineup. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen.
PRE-GAME
*** Andrew Bynum will be in civilian clothes. He’s been troubled by a swollen left knee and now you can add a bruised right hip to the list of his injury problems. As it stands now, Bynum won’t play against the Jazz later this week.
*** Tim Duncan is a pro’s pro. Well before the opening tip, The Big Fundamental is out on the court, working on his game. He starts with some free-throws, moves to baseline and fires up a few jumpers before working his way over to the wing and knocking down a several bank shots. Dude is fun to watch, regardless of the cir stance.
*** Magic Johnson is in the house. And he’s making his rounds, stopping and talking to the media, and fans alike. You know, it’s funny, there’s something about that infectious smile of his that always seems to light up a room.
FIRST QUARTER
*** The Lakers have no answer for Tony Parker early on. He hits a pair of baskets inside and a couple mid-range buckets to give the Spurs a five-point lead at 8:22. Parker finishes with 12 points in the first 12 minutes.
*** Odom answers. With Parker draped all over his back following a switch, Odom takes the ball to the hole, with relative ease, for an easy dunk to give the Lakers their first advantage of the game,12-11, with 6:56 left.
*** Here comes Manu Ginobli. At 6:16, he comes off the bench and makes an immediate impact. Ginobli buries a three-pointer, makes a floater in the lane and converts four free-throws. The Spurs are back on top by nine points.
*** At the end of one, the Lakers trail 34-28. Odom, however appears to be on his way to a triple-double. He has 7 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists this far.
SECOND QUARTER
*** Gasol is the only starter on the floor. He’s joined by Luke Walton, Josh Powell, Farmar and Vujacic. It will be interesting to see where the offense comes from.
*** Vujacic gets hot from the perimeter. He knocks down his first three shots, two from way downtown, to give the Lakers a 35-34 lead at 10:34.
*** What is Walton thinking? He fouls Richard Jefferson on a three-pointer which makes no sense considering how poorly the veteran has been playing lately. Jefferson steps to the line and makes two of three from the stripe. Spurs are up three with 8:32 left.
*** Parker is up to his old tricks. He weaves down the lane, draws the defense toward him before dropping off a nice pass to Duncan for an uncontested layup. Lakers trail 44-41 with 4:01 remaining before the break.
*** The Lakers go on a 9-3 run to close out the half and take a three-point advantage at intermission. Gasol has 6 points and 10 rebounds so far.
THIRD QUARTER
*** Brown does what he does best: Play above the rim. In the opening minutes, Artest tosses an alley oop that Brown snatches out of the air with both hands and finishes with his right to extend the lead to 52-47.
*** Gasol scores seven straight points, highlighted by a three-point play the conventional way. The Lakers start putting some distance between themselves and the struggling Spurs, 61-53, at the 6:56 mark.
*** Poor Duncan. He bites on an Odom pump fake and nearly ends up falling. Odom proceeds along the baseline and dunks over DeJaun Blair to give the Lakers a nine-point advantage with 3:55 remaining.
*** Parker and Blair combine for eight points down the stretch. Ginobli makes a three-pointer to cut the deficit to 73-68 at the end of three.
FOURTH QUARTER
*** Duncan has been on the bench for a while, perhaps too long. At 7:00 he returns, but it might be too late. The Spurs are down seven points. Time is of the essence from here on out.
*** Gasol gets busy. Again. He makes a pair of free-throws and is on the receiving end of no-look pass from Ron Artest that leads to a slam.. The Lakers increase the lead to 90-79 with 3:43 remaining on the clock.
*** Fisher hit’s a jumper, Ginobli fouls him on the play and he converts the subsequent free-throw to give make it a 95-81 game at 1:47. This one is over. Well almost, seconds remain. That’s all she wrote, Lakers win, 100-89.
POST-GAME
*** Parker, with his wife Eva Longoria in attendance, finished with 20 points and 8 assists. Afterward, he acknowledged the well-rounded effort put forth by the Lakers, saying, “Especially with Kobe out, you’re going to have guys who are going to step up and that’s what they did.”
*** In the locker room, Bryant did his best to fend off questions about his injury and whether it would keep him out of the All-Star Game this weekend in Dallas, Tex. “I can’t move to play. Can’t go,” he said. “If I’m ready to go, I’ll play. I don’t know what it’s going to look like on Sunday. I’m not clairvoyant. I’m not an idiot. If it’s an injury where I feel like I can play through it and have it heal while I’m playing, then I’ll play. But if it’s the type of injury where it’s going to get worse when I play, then I won’t.” Seems fair enough. Stay tuned for more details.
This is an incredible thing to witness. Anyone with a chance to get into an arena early enough to catch Duncan's pregame routine should do it.*** Tim Duncan is a pro’s pro. Well before the opening tip, The Big Fundamental is out on the court, working on his game. He starts with some free-throws, moves to baseline and fires up a few jumpers before working his way over to the wing and knocking down a several bank shots. Dude is fun to watch, regardless of the cir stance.
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