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    Salmons 5.8 million shouldn't affect that decision all that much. They would pay that to other players they would either re-sign or sign as free agents. They still would have had plenty of options financially.

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    Salmons 5.8 million shouldn't affect that decision all that much. They would pay that to other players they would either re-sign or sign as free agents. They still would have had plenty of options financially.
    Having those deals on the books could potentially make it impossible to sign Manu and Splitter without going over the tax threshold. I think they prefer to keep that option.

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    At this point I think Manu's gone anyways somewhere else.

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    At this point I think Manu's gone anyways somewhere else.
    They probably should have traded him then.

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    Having those deals on the books could potentially make it impossible to sign Manu and Splitter without going over the tax threshold. I think they prefer to keep that option.
    They are not stuck with Thomas. If Splitter agrees to come it's as easy as not making the QO. Again, with Salmons they are pretty much guaranteeing a rotation player instead of hunting for one with the same amount of money.

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    Having those deals on the books could potentially make it impossible to sign Manu and Splitter without going over the tax threshold. I think they prefer to keep that option.
    Oh yes, I forgot... this year's chance was sacrificed for the legendary Splitter who we all know is coming next year (him and Pop made a secret deal you see).

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    They are not stuck with Thomas. If Splitter agrees to come it's as easy as not making the QO. Again, with Salmons they are pretty much guaranteeing a rotation player instead of hunting for one with the same amount of money.
    So let Thomas walk for nothing and force yourself to replace Manu with Salmons?

    No need to talk about this anymore. I never really bought the rumor in the first place and now that I've looked at all the ramifications, I won't ever believe it was serious.

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    At this point I think Manu's gone anyways somewhere else.
    Manu will not be gone. The spurs will re-sign him.

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    They probably should have traded him then.
    yes they should have traded him but not because he will be gone but because his game will be on the rapid decline and will not translate in what they will be paying him.

    A core of an aging Duncan, Manu and a return to top form Parker next year will not be enough to win anymore.

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    So let Thomas walk for nothing and force yourself to replace Manu with Salmons?

    No need to talk about this anymore.
    No...the Spurs are going to have to sign other players besides Manu. After re-signing him they will only have 8 players under contract. Acquiring Salmons helps with this.

    Thomas becomes a wild card. If he plays really well it looks like Splitter is waffling and doesn't want to come the QO can be tendered. If he looks inconsistent and/or Splitter is on the way they don't have to. Like I said...options.

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    I agree the Spurs don't want to spend anymore money at this point. The only rebuilding for the moment is Holt's bank account to stop some of the bleeding.

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    No...the Spurs are going to have to sign other players besides Manu. After re-signing him they will only have 8 players under contract. Acquiring Salmons helps with this.
    It only helps in that it locks them into a replacement for Manu.

    Thomas becomes a wild card. If he plays really well it looks like Splitter is waffling and doesn't want to come the QO can be tendered. If he looks inconsistent and/or Splitter is on the way they don't have to. Like I said...options.
    Like I said, they want more options than that. Options that include Manu.

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    The ramifications are more than you are making them out to be.

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    The ramifications are more than you are making them out to be.
    When I consider the financial landscape of the coming seasons, I am probably understating the ramifications.

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    It only helps in that it locks them into a replacement for Manu.

    Like I said, they want more options than that. Options that include Manu.
    Ok...we re-sign Manu. How do you suggest we acquire other new players? Have the Spurs suddenly become some sort of desirable free agent destination overnight?

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    Ok...we re-sign Manu. How do you suggest we acquire other new players? Have the Spurs suddenly become some sort of desirable free agent destination overnight?
    Not at all, but Manu is more of a cash cow for this team than Salmons ever could be. If there is a priority this summer, it's keeping him or getting someone who can replace him on the court as well as the bottom line.

    I can completely see the Spurs' signing Manu, Splitter and a bunch of draft picks and minimum players to stay as close to the tax threshold as possible. They will be in a better position to trade Jefferson and maybe even Parker after all the cap and tax numbers are known.

    Not as exciting as many would want it to be, but realistic given the financial situation of the Spurs and the NBA.

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    That's throwing in chips on an awful lot of minimum vets/draft picks. Signing Manu and Splitter only gets to roster to 9 players...and that is if Hairston works out and can contribute.

    Salmons would almost certainly wind up a rotation player and the financial risk is fairly low...that is...compared to other recent financial risks the Spurs have decided to take.

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    Not at all, but Manu is more of a cash cow for this team than Salmons ever could be. If there is a priority this summer, it's keeping him or getting someone who can replace him on the court as well as the bottom line.

    I can completely see the Spurs' signing Manu, Splitter and a bunch of draft picks and minimum players to stay as close to the tax threshold as possible. They will be in a better position to trade Jefferson and maybe even Parker after all the cap and tax numbers are known.

    Not as exciting as many would want it to be, but realistic given the financial situation of the Spurs and the NBA.
    You erroneously assume Manu is going to want to stick around on a team that doesn't want to take any risks to win a championship. He's almost certainly going to want to finish his career somewhere else rather than finish his career dying a slow death with Popovich and his small ball lineups.

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    That's throwing in chips on an awful lot of minimum vets/draft picks. Signing Manu and Splitter only gets to roster to 9 players...and that is if Hairston works out and can contribute.
    Yep, I think that's pretty much the plan initially. Not sexy, but there it is. As I said, there is the potential for trades after the numbers are known.

    Salmons would almost certainly wind up a rotation player and the financial risk is fairly low...that is...compared to other recent financial risks the Spurs have decided to take.
    He's not Manu. Losing him in a down year isn't a great idea, moneywise. I think he'd be a fair replacement for Manu on the court, but that isn't the only thing to take into consideration here.

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    You erroneously assume Manu is going to want to stick around on a team that doesn't want to take any risks to win a championship. He's almost certainly going to want to finish his career somewhere else rather than finish his career dying a slow death with Popovich and his small ball lineups.
    Great, he can get more money if he participates in a sign and trade.

    Like I said, it may have been a smarter move to trade him this season - but really only from a basketball standpoint. I can understand why they didn't.

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    If that is the plan the Spurs are better off just not signing Manu and blowing the whole thing up. The Spurs can't contend with that type of plan.

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    If that is the plan the Spurs are better off just not signing Manu and blowing the whole thing up. The Spurs can't contend with that type of plan.
    OK, that is also an option. It's just as easy to say they wouldn't compete with Thomas and Salmons either if we want to continue to cling to the rumor as gospel truth.

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    Your probably right...but it at least gives them a rotation wing and an athletic front line player going forwards.

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    Your probably right...but it at least gives them a rotation wing and an athletic front line player going forwards.
    Deckchairs on he anic. If Pop can't do anything with Jefferson, he'll be the big chip next season if there are teams scrambling to cut future obligations.

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    I'm just trying to keep with the FO's "all in" mantra.

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