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    That's over. It was a failure. Now it's about trying to make some of that money back.

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    Great, he can get more money if he participates in a sign and trade.

    Like I said, it may have been a smarter move to trade him this season - but really only from a basketball standpoint. I can understand why they didn't.
    Spurs have approx 21.5 million in expiring contracts this year. That's 21.5 million they will have to divvy up next year. That's enough.

    Thomas and Salmons eat up 12m of that, which leaves 9m for Manu and possibly RMJ to split. With Thomas, the spurs don't need Splitter.

    Standing pat has now guaranteed they will have no shot at even making a deep playoff run this year as well as losing Manu and probably Mason too.

    At least we'll still have Bonner, Finley and Bogans to resign though!!

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    Spurs have approx 21.5 million in expiring contracts this year. That's 21.5 million they will have to divvy up next year.
    That is quite an assumption. I would probably consider half of that to be a more realistic estimate.

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    That is quite an assumption. I would probably consider half of that to be a more realistic estimate.
    According to Hoopshype salaries

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

    These guys all have expiring salaries.

    Emanuel Ginobili $10,725,000
    Roger Mason $3,780,000
    Matt Bonner $3,240,380
    Michael Finley $2,500,000
    Ian Mahinmi $1,079,640
    Keith Bogans $1,033,342

    = 22,358,362

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    According to Hoopshype salaries

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

    These guys all have expiring salaries.

    Emanuel Ginobili $10,725,000
    Roger Mason $3,780,000
    Matt Bonner $3,240,380
    Michael Finley $2,500,000
    Ian Mahinmi $1,079,640
    Keith Bogans $1,033,342

    = 22,358,362
    Is there some new bylaw stating that teams must spend the same amount every season?

    Please post a link to it.

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    Is there some new bylaw stating that teams must spend the same amount every season?

    Please post a link to it.
    Please STFU now. Thanks.

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    Please STFU now. Thanks.
    I take it there is no such new bylaw. Let us assume there has been no change to the CBA that you claimed and the Spurs next season can spend more, less or the same as this season.

    Tell me, after this season with its salary dump, and given the financial climate facing the NBA as a whole and the Spurs in particular, is your prediction the Spurs next season will spend:

    a) More than this season.

    b) The same as this season.

    c) Less than this season.

    Thanks in advance for answering.

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    I take it there is no such new bylaw. Let us assume there has been no change to the CBA that you claimed and the Spurs next season can spend more, less or the same as this season.

    Tell me, after this season with its salary dump, and given the financial climate facing the NBA as a whole and the Spurs in particular, is your prediction the Spurs next season will spend:

    a) More than this season.

    b) The same as this season.

    c) Less than this season.

    Thanks in advance for answering.
    Oh goodie. Another re ed Q&A from Chumpdumper

    I'll indulge you this time, however. Be aware that your answer would depend on the year's success.

    Which means if the spurs' new hypothetical acquisitions do well and help them make a deep playoff run I'd say the answer would be (B), given that Duncan and Ginobili are still playing at a high level and Parker would be expected to be healthy (this would have been before his announcment to play this summer). If they helped the spurs win a I would think even (A) would be within the realm of possibility.

    /a cynical your welcome.

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    Oh goodie. Another re ed Q&A from Chumpdumper

    I'll indulge you this time, however. Be aware that your answer would depend on the year's success.

    Which means if the spurs' new hypothetical acquisitions do well and help them make a deep playoff run I'd say the answer would be (B), given that Duncan and Ginobili are still playing at a high level and Parker would be expected to be healthy (this would have been before his announcment to play this summer). If they helped the spurs win a I would think even (A) would be within the realm of possibility.

    /a cynical your welcome.
    Judging from your other posts about the current state of the team, it's safe to say you are being disingenuous about the Spurs' chances of winning an NBA championship this season.

    I wouldn't expect anything else from you at this point.

    I will go ahead and make the apparently bold (to you) prediction that the Spurs will not win a championship this season and spend less than this season regardless of the outcome.

    Feel free to tell us all why you feel the Spurs will win it all this year and spend the same or more next season.

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    You can make all the excuses for the franchise that you want, but adding Thomas and Salmons would have been a HUGE upgrade to this team, and would have kept them in contention THIS year, and would still have them in line to contend next year.... and I don't buy for one second that it couldn't have gotten done.

    I could care less if Manu comes back. I don't care how many jerseys he sells, that. If he can't perform up to what he's being payed, or take a pay cut accordingly, adios. We're supposed to be about winning, not penny pinching. If that's the case, then we had a good run, but it's time to move along Holt, you're done here.

    They failed a little bit, paniced, and bailed out.... on everybody

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    You can make all the excuses for the franchise that you want, but adding Thomas and Salmons would have been a HUGE upgrade to this team, and would have kept them in contention THIS year, and would still have them in line to contend next year.

    I could care less if Manu comes back. I don't care how many jerseys he sells, that. If he can't perform up to what he's being payed, or take a pay cut accordingly, adios. We're supposed to be about winning, not penny pinching. If that's the case, then we had a good run, but it's time to move along Holt, you're done here.

    They failed a little bit, paniced, and bailed out.... on everybody
    They failed more than a little bit. Now they just want to recoup some losses. It's easy to demand they double down at this point, but it's also kind of dumb.

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    Judging from your other posts about the current state of the team, it's safe to say you are being disingenuous about the Spurs' chances of winning an NBA championship this season.

    I wouldn't expect anything else from you at this point.

    I will go ahead and make the apparently bold (to you) prediction that the Spurs will not win a championship this season and spend less than this season regardless of the outcome.

    Feel free to tell us all why you feel the Spurs will win it all this year and spend the same or more next season.
    Did you really just forget the whole argument I was making was based on a hypothetical trade? Are you that scatterbrained?

    I repeat for the mentally challenged: As it stands now, the spurs don't have a legit shot at a le, especially after resting on their laurels and making little effort to improve the roster as it stands with a trade.



    I'm not sure why your

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    You can make all the excuses for the franchise that you want, but adding Thomas and Salmons would have been a HUGE upgrade to this team, and would have kept them in contention THIS year, and would still have them in line to contend next year.... and I don't buy for one second that it couldn't have gotten done.
    +1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Everytime I see Bogans brick up another shot, I envision Salmons in his place. And every time I saw Brand abusing Bonnor, I thought of Thomas guarding him instead. Now we are going to just ride this one out...

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    Did you really just forget the whole argument I was making was based on a hypothetical trade? Are you that scatterbrained?

    I repeat for the mentally challenged: As it stands now, the spurs don't have a legit shot at a le, especially after resting on their laurels and making little effort to improve the roster as it stands with a trade.



    I'm not sure why your
    I believe it is you who can't follow the thread.

    I'm talking about what will happen now for the actual Spurs, not some stupid hypothetical fantasy world in which Thomas and Salmons help the Spurs win a championship.

    Quit deluding yourself and get real for once.

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    I believe it is you who can't follow the thread.

    I'm talking about what will happen now for the actual Spurs, not some stupid hypothetical fantasy world in which Thomas and Salmons help the Spurs win a championship.

    Quit deluding yourself and get real for once.
    Well goodie we're all in awe of your "realness" but this is the wrong thread for that, maybe you should go post your doom and gloom in a more appropriate thread.

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    Reality is why the fantasy trade didn't happen in the first place.

    Why do you insist on pleasuring yourself to boxscore lines of players who are not and never will be Spurs?

    You can pat yourself on the back for being the bestest armchair coah/GM/owner on the internets only so long.

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    Well goodie we're all in awe of your "realness" but this is the wrong thread for that, maybe you should go post your doom and gloom in a more appropriate thread.
    Right. This is now the lube-and-tissue alternate timeline thread.

    Carry on.

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    Reality is why the fantasy trade didn't happen in the first place.

    Why do you insist on pleasuring yourself to boxscore lines of players who are not and never will be Spurs?

    You can pat yourself on the back for being the bestest armchair coah/GM/owner on the internets only so long.
    Says the guy who lives to watch the Austin Toros. Pot calling kettle...

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    Says the guy who lives to watch the Austin Toros. Pot calling kettle...
    Hairston already is a Spur. One or two players might be Spurs some time in the future.

    And it's in town.

    I certainly don't gnash my teeth and cry like you if your favorites do not become Spurs, nor do I create an alternative reality in which they are Spurs after the possibility is gone.

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    Hairston already is a Spur. One or two players might be Spurs some time in the future.

    And it's in town.

    I certainly don't gnash my teeth and cry like you if they do not become Spurs.
    Well of course you don't. You're a registered Pop-alogist who applauds anything the F.O. does.

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    Well of course you don't. You're a registered Pop-alogist who applauds anything the F.O. does.
    Wrong again.

    I'm all for cleaning house at this point, and I think it might actually happen after this season.

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    Wrong again.

    I'm all for cleaning house at this point.
    Starting with Popovich?

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    Starting with Popovich?
    What part of cleaning house do you not understand, Einstein?

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    They failed more than a little bit. Now they just want to recoup some losses. It's easy to demand they double down at this point, but it's also kind of dumb.
    Way to nit pick the post...... It doesn't matter if they failed the ultimate fail... If it doesn't hurt the team from a basketball standpoint (horrible contracts, losing draft picks/young players), I, and anybody as a fan, shouldn't care about Holt having to spend money. Especially since he's been stingy his whole in stint here. He doesn't get any sympathy.

    Dumb is what they've already done. They went half way, got scared, and turned back. Now nobody wins... anything. Everybody feels like , and they still lose money.

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    What part of cleaning house do you not understand, Einstein?
    Hey, no need to be a . I just asked a simple question for verification. I think at this point I might have to agree with you that blowing up the entire works and starting over is quickly becoming the reality the spurs face.

    But I don't get why you're butthurt that spurs fans want to explore the "what ifs" and "what might have beens" ...

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