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    Way to nit pick the post...... It doesn't matter if they failed the ultimate fail... If it doesn't hurt the team from a basketball standpoint (horrible contracts, losing draft picks/young players), I, and anybody as a fan, shouldn't care about Holt having to spend money. Especially since he's been stingy his whole in stint here. He doesn't get any sympathy.
    It's nice to pretend that money doesn't matter, isn't it? It works in every situation for you in life.

    Dumb is what they've already done. They went half way, got scared, and turned back. Now nobody wins... anything. Everybody feels like , and they still lose money.
    I'm sure the Spurs' priority is to make you feel better.

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    Hey, no need to be a . I just asked a simple question for verification. I think at this point I might have to agree with you that blowing up the entire works and starting over is quickly becoming the reality the spurs face.
    I think the clock is ticking toward the end of the season.
    But I don't get why you're butthurt that spurs fans want to explore the "what ifs" and "what might have beens" ...
    You're a fantastic alternate reality head coach/gm/owner.

    Congratulations.

    I can't wait to see that next boxscore line!

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    It's nice to pretend that money doesn't matter, isn't it? It works in every situation for you in life.

    I'm sure the Spurs' priority is to make you feel better.

    Sorry, I'm not a multi,multi millionaire.... but if I was, and I owned the Spurs, I can guarantee you I'd do my job and do whatever it takes to put the best team on the floor. The object of an NBA franchise is to win championships, not see who be the most frugal and save the most money, yay! and gee golly, maybe, hopefully we could win a couple games while we're at it.

    And I wasn't talkin about just me genius. You think Pop feels good right now? Timmy? RC? Holt? David Robinson? Anybody that's a Spurs fan?... Didn't think so. I would think keeping the combination of all those people as happy as possible should be a major priority.

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    You're a fantastic alternate reality head coach/gm/owner.

    Congratulations.

    I can't wait to see that next boxscore line!
    There are hundreds of speculation threads.. err... "alternate reality" threads and posts littering the forum, but I'm glad you've singled me out for greatness.

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    Sorry, I'm not a multi,multi millionaire.... but if I was, and I owned the Spurs, I can guarantee you I'd do my job and do whatever it takes to put the best team on the floor. The object of an NBA franchise is to win championships, not see who be the most frugal and save the most money, yay! and gee golly, maybe, hopefully we could win a couple games while we're at it.
    Again, it's nice to pretend that but make no mistake: owners want to make money. They'll spend like idiots every once in awhile, but if they are in it for the long haul money is the primary concern. If you haven't noticed this about the Spurs' ownership by now, I don't know what to tell you.

    And I wasn't talkin about just me genius. You think Pop feels good right now? Timmy? RC? Holt? David Robinson? Anybody that's a Spurs fan?... Didn't think so. I would think keeping the combination of all those people as happy as possible should be a major priority.
    Turns out you were talking about yourself.

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    There are hundreds of speculation threads.. err... "alternate reality" threads and posts littering the forum, but I'm glad you've singled me out for greatness.
    Yeah, I'm glad you haven't figured out what sarcasm is yet.

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    Again, it's nice to pretend that but make no mistake: owners want to make money. They'll spend like idiots every once in awhile, but if they are in it for the long haul money is the primary concern. If you haven't noticed this about the Spurs' ownership by now, I don't know what to tell you.
    That's fine, but now wasn't the time for that. We could have made money and pinched pennies again when Tim is gone and we have nothing left. This was supposed to be, as well it should be, balls to the wall time.

    Do you not agree it's ed up to supposedly "go all in", and then back out half way through the 1st season of it? Is it not the worst thing they could have done? Obviously the results of Plan A aren't what they wanted right now, but they gave up too hard and too fast.

    It's not like we're the Lakers. I don't feel comfortable saying, oh well, this dynasty is over, time to start the next one. We got lucky, twice. I don't expect it to happen again anytime soon, if at all. Gotta get everything you can out of it.

    Turns out you were talking about yourself.
    as indicated by "I wasn't JUST talking about myself"

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    That's fine, but now wasn't the time for that. We could have made money and pinched pennies again when Tim is gone and we have nothing left. This was supposed to be, as well it should be, balls to the wall time.
    I think the possible 5% drop in revenues in the NBA and its effect on the cap and tax thresholds have ended that, almost regardless of this year's performance.

    Do you not agree it's ed up to supposedly "go all in", and then back out half way through the 1st season of it? Is it not the worst thing they could have done? Obviously the results of Plan A aren't what they wanted right now, but they gave up too hard and too fast.
    From a basketball standpoint it does suck. From a business standpoint, it's very reasonable.

    It's not like we're the Lakers. I don't feel comfortable saying, oh well, this dynasty is over, time to start the next one. We got lucky, twice, I don't expect it to happen again anytime soon, if at all. Gotta get everything you can out of it.
    We are definitely not like the Lakers. There isn't that kind of money available to the team.

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    Holt should just fire Popovich now and start the rebuilding early.

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    lol... Holt should sell the team to somebody with some real money

    Why isn't Bill Gates from San Antonio and a die hard sports fan? He could absorb a few million on the reg.

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    Holt should sell the team to somebody with some real money
    Anyone with real money would probably move the team.

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    Boy, Tyrus Thomas sure looked dumb blocking all those shots and grabbing all those rebounds and scoring those points against Lebron's cavs last night. Thankfully the spurs avoided that bball IQ challenged player.

    We got Splitter coming in next year, he'll show that dumbell Tyrus a thing or two!!!!


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    Tyrus can guard those x factors, Odom killed us without kobe & bynum.

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    Boy, Tyrus Thomas sure looked dumb blocking all those shots and grabbing all those rebounds and scoring those points against Lebron's cavs last night. Thankfully the spurs avoided that bball IQ challenged player.

    We got Splitter coming in next year, he'll show that dumbell Tyrus a thing or two!!!!

    Acquiring a player of Thomas' skill set was so important for this team. A team that has so little shotblocking ability and virtually no bigs capable of defending the quick "4s" in the league.

    The FO made a big mistake in NOT getting this trade done. If it's not already obvious, it should be.

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    Again, it's nice to pretend that but make no mistake: owners want to make money. They'll spend like idiots every once in awhile, but if they are in it for the long haul money is the primary concern. If you haven't noticed this about the Spurs' ownership by now, I don't know what to tell you.

    Turns out you were talking about yourself.
    If the top priority for owners is to make money then there are better ways to invest their money then on an NBA team. Making money is not the top priority.

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    You can make all the excuses for the franchise that you want, but adding Thomas and Salmons would have been a HUGE upgrade to this team, and would have kept them in contention THIS year, and would still have them in line to contend next year.... and I don't buy for one second that it couldn't have gotten done.

    I could care less if Manu comes back. I don't care how many jerseys he sells, that. If he can't perform up to what he's being payed, or take a pay cut accordingly, adios. We're supposed to be about winning, not penny pinching. If that's the case, then we had a good run, but it's time to move along Holt, you're done here.

    They failed a little bit, paniced, and bailed out.... on everybody
    Agree. Good post. Over paying for manu will finish this team in the Duncan era because they will tighten the spending and go back to tight, conservative moves after last summers moves.


    The front office failed to make any type of roster upgrade at the trade deadline and there are no excuses for it.

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    If the top priority for owners is to make money then there are better ways to invest their money then on an NBA team. Making money is not the top priority.
    Sure it is. This particular group just wanted to find a way to make money in San Antonio.

    They are not in the business to lose money, that's for sure.

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    Sure it is. This particular group just wanted to find a way to make money in San Antonio.

    They are not in the business to lose money, that's for sure.
    I'll be they're going to start losing ALOT of money next season when ticket sales start dropping like a brick as people get fed up watching the broken record of small ball losing leads and the Finley/Bogans/Bonner circle jerk losing games.

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    I'll be they're going to start losing ALOT of money next season when ticket sales start dropping like a brick as people get fed up watching the broken record of small ball losing leads and the Finley/Bogans/Bonner circle jerk losing games.
    If they lose enough money, they'll sell and the Spurs will move.

    Pretty simple.

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    If they lose enough money, they'll sell and the Spurs will move.

    Pretty simple.
    Where, Seattle? Kansas City? Louisville? There ain't no more money there than can be had here with a losing team. 40% of the current franchises are losing money. Plain and simple if you don't win you don't make money in this league.

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    Where, Seattle? Kansas City? Louisville?
    Wherever a new owner wants.
    There ain't no more money there than can be had here with a losing team.
    Yeah, that's why losing teams never move anywhere.
    40% of the current franchises are losing money. Plain and simple if you don't win you don't make money in this league.
    You can definitely make money in this league if you don't win. That has been proved many times over. It's just more difficult to do that in a place like San Antonio -- which is why a new owner might move it.

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    Wherever a new owner wants.Yeah, that's why losing teams never move anywhere. You can definitely make money in this league if you don't win. That has been proved many times over. It's just more difficult to do that in a place like San Antonio -- which is why a new owner might move it.
    You act like it's just a snap of the fingers to move a franchise to a new city. Not so. You got to get a vote of approval from the owners first, you may have arena lease agreements to honor then you got relocation fees (Seattle to Oklahoma City was 30 million), you'll probably get death threats by rabid fans, etc.

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    You act like it's just a snap of the fingers to move a franchise to a new city.
    No more than you act like fantasy trades are real.
    Not so. You got to get a vote of approval from the owners first, you may have arena lease agreements to honor then you got relocation fees (Seattle to Oklahoma City was 30 million), you'll probably get death threats by rabid fans, etc.
    And yet, it did happen to the Sonics.

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    Where, Seattle? Kansas City? Louisville? There ain't no more money there than can be had here with a losing team. 40% of the current franchises are losing money. Plain and simple if you don't win you don't make money in this league.
    Wow, I can really imagine the Spurs in Seattle. Makes a sick kind of sense.

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    Wow, I can really imagine the Spurs in Seattle. Makes a sick kind of sense.
    All of the Pop worries of the forum would be over. No team? No coach to about. In fact, probably no forum, either.

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