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And the Girzzlies, and the Hornets.
No. Teams never move...
There's been more team movement in the last 5-10 years than in the 20 before.
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Wouldnt be a bad thing for me. I live in Seattle.
close this damn thread already!
From ESPN Rumor Central
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors#14607
Thomas staying with Bobcats?
Tyrus Thomas may not have worked out well with the Bulls, but he's been an instant contributor to Charlotte's defense, one of the best in the league.
It's a small sample size, but here's a stat from Tom Haberstroh of Hoopsdata.com: "Opponents have shot 33-for-65 (50.7 percent) at the rim vs. the Bobcats since Ty Thomas and Theo Ratliff arrived. The NBA average is 60.5 percent."
Larry Brown also has a reputation of wrangling in guys like Thomas and making something of them, so he could be a good fit going forward for the team.
So with Thomas a restricted free agent this summer, are the Bobcats angling to bring him back? Or will Thomas find himself with a new team come next season?
ESPN's Chad Ford touches on this in his chat today.
Chad Ford
If Thomas keeps it up, it's worth bringing him back
"The Bobcats might bring him back. I watched the Bobcats play twice since landing Thomas. He looks great. We'll see if he can keep it up. But he's a HUGE talent. If Larry Brown can get through to him, it would be worth keeping him on the roster for another year to see if he develops. The only thing holding Tyrus back is Tyrus. If he can get a little more maturity, the Bobcats trade of a future first for Thomas may be the deal of the deadline. However, don't hate the Bulls for what they did. He needed a change of scenery. He was going nowhere in Chicago."
Isn't Tryus a headcase?
Isn't Ratliff too old?
How can this be?
In fairness, his performance is nothing if not expected. In fact, it was one of the most attractive things about him as it pertains to this year: he's out of guaranteed money.
So I expect to see nothing but the best from Tyrus, on and off the court, for the remainder of this year with Charlotte and for his team to reap the rewards; whether that translates next year and beyond remains to be seen.
I wish it would have been discovered in a Spurs jersey, though.
uh trade deadline is over..
Nice find, Senorspur. I'm sure the TT haters would just love to find an explanation for the opposing teams FG% taking a nosedive that somehow involves Tyrus Thomas' "low basketball IQ". Good luck with that one, jackasses.
And to think that if the spurs had played their cards right and if Pop actually stopped playing small-ball all the time, Timmy would be playing alongside frontcourt partners Thomas, McDyess, Blair, and Ratliff which to me sounds like a winning formula.
...Guess Ford forgot to mention that out of the 3 games played by TT and ratliff 2 have been losses against the clips and bucks. No doubt these guys help out on the defensive end but what about offense?
Business exists for one reason. In the context of owning said business (the Spurs in this case), the ownership is going to do everything they can to maximize their profit potential.
Arguing the finer points about which investment is better than the other is quite silly as you have no way of knowing what sort of comfort level the Spurs' investors have in the general market.
The losses haven't been because of those two. Bucks have been a tear with Bogut playing like a near all-star and also since Salmons came onboard.
Clippers game Stephen Jackson went 1-16. Nuff said on that one. Both games the 'cats have been short their starting center too.Bogut said Salmons has been a great addition to the team. "He's been a proven scorer in the NBA and we know what he's capable of and that's why we traded for him," Bogut said. "He knows how to make plays, just look at the steal at the end of the game. That's really a four-point play and put the game away for us."
The spurs were likely scared off because of his at ude.
Last summer was the first time this front office went out and took some risks and it backfired. Look for them to go back to their conservative ways. We saw that this last trade deadline.
Last night's Thomas line: 31 minutes: 6-8 fg, 8-9 ft, 3reb, 2ast, 3stl, 1blk, 20 pts
And Ratliff blocked 4 shots as well.
Makes me laugh to think folks on this site wanted the rickety older than dirt Marcus cotton Camby rather than take a chance on this guy.
Typical spursfan conservative flawed thinking that is getting this team nowhere in a hurry.
as far as I remember, more here liked the idea of getting TT, especially when it looked as if it is our most realistic option.
and less and less liked the option of getting Camby.
and I really can't remember that many here stated to take Camby INSTEAD of TT, if both deals are on the table.
you act as if 99% of the forum wanted Camby and you, the lonesome genius, always fought for TT, who 99% disliked. jeezzz.
That's a ridiculous assertion considering I didn't even start this thread. I haven't implied anything of the sort (that I was the one lone supporter). I would probably consider myself the most vociferous of the bunch, but certainly not the only one.
And there were plenty of Camby supporters, shall I look them up for you?
3 rebounds and 1 block in 31 minutes..Most importantly 3 losses in 4 games now since acquiring TT and ratliff..
Being curious, I just came on this thread to see what could possibly still being said about a trade that didn't happen or one that did. I guess some folks will track Thomasss points rebounds and blocks for the rest of his career.
I guess, like with Scola and Jax, some folks will be moaning over their favorite unmakeable deal or trade forever. You and I need to keep from getting sucked in to their madness.
Because we wanted to bring him in for his offense right? 1 blk and 3 reb stand out to me. That's "Bonneresque", so to speak.....
Meanwhile Boozer went for 33 and 16 on 13-16 shooting. So much for that D
Oh, and the Bobcats lost btw.
The Bobcats haven't played well away from home all year long, I'm not sure what the deal is with that but that really has nothing to do with Thomas and Ratliff.3 rebounds and 1 block in 31 minutes..Most importantly 3 losses in 4 games now since acquiring TT and ratliff..
They're also missing their starting center, and Jackson is in a shooting slump. Without TT and Ratliff both protecting the rim I'm sure the bobcats would be instead getting blown out of these last few games.
Being curious, I just came on this thread to see what could possibly still being said about a trade that didn't happen or one that did. I guess some folks will track Thomasss points rebounds and blocks for the rest of his career.
I guess, like with Scola and Jax, some folks will be moaning over their favorite unmakeable deal or trade forever. You and I need to keep from getting sucked in to their madness.
To late, thanks for posting...
LOL, I'd take that statline any day of the week and twice on Sundays from Bonner. 20 pts on 75% shooting, 8-9 from the line, 3 steals/1ast/1 block... yah I would.Because we wanted to bring him in for his offense right? 1 blk and 3 reb stand out to me. That's "Bonneresque", so to speak.....
Meanwhile Boozer went for 33 and 16 on 13-16 shooting. So much for that D
Oh, and the Bobcats lost btw.
And what's your point about Boozer? He's getting paid more than double Thomas' salary. (12M)
Uh..
Diaw's +/- for the game was -23
Thomas +/- for the game was +9
Most likely the guy that Boozer was torching was Boris Diaw given that he is the bobcat's starter and his (+/-) stat reflects getting torched.
Red - But you know you won't get that consistently.......from either player, so quit nuthugging. It's one game. Get back to me when he does something meaningful for a significant stretch of time.
Blue - My point? Perhaps you missed Boozers stat line....I'll repeat it: 33 and 16 on 13-16. That's a direct indictment on the interior D.
What does salary have to do with anything? So you expect the same problems when he goes against the Nowitskis, Stoudemires and the Garnetts of the world? Laughable since that's precisely why he would have been brought in: To contain those guys, not give up 33 and 16.
Purple - As you yourself write, you don't know. Talking out of your ass again. Oh, and LOL at the plus minus giving ANY indication as to what position the scoring was coming from at any given time.
Yall can keep denying Thomas all you want, but the numbers don't lie.... 4 game averages since he got traded:
28 minutes per game
52.7% shooting
12.8 points
7.5 rebounds
3.5 blocks
1.5 steals
13-15 from the free throw line
and the stat about their defensive FG% at the rim being over 10% below the league average since he and Theo got there.
Bobcats have lost 3 of 4 for the reasons TJastal keeps saying. The Jazz are as hot as anybody right now, are a good team, were at home, Jack shoots 5-15. The Bobcats are having a good year, but let's not crown 'em just yet, that's not a game they're supposed to win.... Jack went 1-16 against the Clippers.... and the Bucks, another team playing well, got out to a big lead at halftime and barely hung on in a game that Charlotte's PGs combined to go 3-16. No Nazr. No Tyson... and their win wasn't a gimme or anything, it was a stomping of the best team in the league.
They've also been streaky like this all year.... Win 4, lose 3... this is like their 6-7th time this year to lose 3 in a row.
Basically, they're gonna play solid defense, and when they're on, they're a really good team... but they're still the Bobcats, and they're still gonna have some nights where they don't get it done. Especially when Jack is struggling, because they rely so heavily on him to carry a huge part of the scoring load EVERY night. To suggest that any of these 3 loses have been due to Tyrus or Theo tho is pretty ridiculous. Especially since Theo is seeing so many minutes because of the 2 guys ahead of him on the depth chart being out.
Also, this is kind of a seperate thing since Diaw was the one he was doing the most work on anyway, but... It's funny people always want to act like Boozer sucks. Boozer could be better, and he's nobody's fan favorite. I hate on the Dookie myself... but Boozer kills people on the reg. It's fact
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