I didn't even know who you were before your weird rant on this thread.
P/S: I just had to wait 'till he played an official match again.
It's just a video of almost all the balls Messi touched in the game.
I didn't even know who you were before your weird rant on this thread.
P/S: I just had to wait 'till he played an official match again.
Last edited by DAF86; 08-23-2010 at 03:50 PM.
Yes, he is.
And the best player in the world is........
nobody !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today's soccer sucks big time
Messi or CR would have been 3rd options on their NT a long time ago
Today's football is a lot harder than yesterday's football (at least for offensive players), as players get bigger, faster, stronger and tactics get more pragmatic is a lot more difficult for the offensive football to shine that's why we gotta apreciate a lot more what players like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc and teams like Barcelona and Spain are doing in such a difficult era.
Games decades ago had a goal average of around 5 per game, that's not because players were better back then, it's because of the way it was played.
Today's defenders may be bigger, stronger, but from a technical standpoint, none of them holds a candle next to players such as Baresi, Blanc, Bossis, Costacurta, Danny Blintz, Beckenbauer
those were the days
The bosses
Pique, Alves, Maicon and Lucio (and I'm surely forgetting others) are just as good (if not better) technically as those defenders.
Either way, you're missing the point. Nowadays football is played a lot faster than before, that's why is so difficult to see the players showing all their technic on matches.
defenders back then would injure you if u try to do the same stunt again to embarrass them
Guys like Pique, Alves, Maicon have better offensive skills than the dudes I mentioned, no question.
But defensively? not so sure
Alves gambles too much and is quite the hot-head as well... that said, he's probably one of the most intimidating defenders out there despite his 'slender' physique...
In today's game the most complete defender out there is probably Carles Puyol... other than the fact that age is catching up with him, the guy is a nearly flawless defender... Fearless, tactical, strong, tireless, reliable etc... he kind of reminds me of Maldini...
Maicon probably comes in 2nd followed by the pack of everyone else...
As an aside, Pique is slightly overrated as a defender due to his physically imposing size... not saying he's not great... just not elite...
I agree on Puyol being the best right now
I was talking about his technical abilites, maybe defending he is just good but with the ball he is the most talented center back in the World, dude could easily play as a center forward.
anyone can have a good game when you play the scrub ass teams in la liga, messi didnt do in CL2010 or WC2010
I agree
La Liga is a 2 headed monster
The rest is
Messi was the top scorer of the CL2010 and was among the top 10 players selected to be the World Cup Golden ball even though his team lost in the quarters, Guardiola (Messi's coach but also the coach of Iniesta, Xavi and Villa) said that Messi was the best player of the WC and a lot of people agree.
But you can go ahead and think what you want.
lol Italy, btw.
Messi vs Xavi and Iniesta.
Awesome play at the 4:40 mark.
Last edited by DAF86; 09-11-2010 at 07:48 PM.
1st - link?
2nd - who is alot of people, not counting all the messi bandwagoners
3rd - he didnt do in WC
4th - messi scored all those gols in group stage against garbage teams
Yes, lots of meaningless group stage goals against garbage teams.
Damn, Messi and Co were really God material today
daf, I hadnt seen the whole arg - spain game, but that highlight vid you posted isnt helping your case at all. he didnt have a bad game, but when half your highlights are weak/late passes and you playing superman with 2 open teammates in the box... thats not god like.
the kid is good, has had better games than that one obviously, and he may well become godlike, but he still has a ways to go
How many times do I need to repeat myself? These aren't highlights, they're just a compilation of almost all the balls he touched in the game, that's what happens when you're the best player in the world, you have people uploading everything you do in a pitch to the net.
I know that you're the typical "Maradona won a WC so he can't do no wrong and I don't care that Riquelme can't play two full games without getting injured I still think he's the best player in the world although he plays in a B league and he never really was anywhere close to beign that" Boca Juniors fan and that's why you tend to underrate Messi but I don't need to help any case, most people already think that Messi is the best player in the World.
Last edited by DAF86; 09-12-2010 at 12:29 PM.
i was actually going to put, messi is probably the best in the world right now, that doesnt make him godlike or best all time... it just says that right now there arent a lot great teams or players. and looking at most leagues, the CL, and the last WC, that sounds like a pretty accurate statement. Forlan golden boot?? Sorry but thats just sad.
anyways, if its not a highlight, you are telling me messi saw the ball for 5 minutes in a 90 minute game? almost all the balls he touched? so why almost, why not all, why did they include these and not others? you yourself said the play at 4:40 is awesome... yes, it was awesome how he navigated 4 defenders, but was it awesome how he waited unnecessarily for his teammate to be offside before hitting him with the pass?? like i said, he is good, has even better things ahead of him, but he is not the god you are painting him out to be.
you're the typical loser who brings in other things to an argument instead of answering directly. when have i ever said that riquelme is the best in the world? i said he is easily the best argentine freekick specialist, to which your retort was "you are a boca fan". if i'm wrong, who is the better FK specialist? i said maradona made some good changes and that for the most part i liked how he set the team up for the WC, but I said what IMO he did wrong. you didnt answer that either, you just cherry pick and wait for the results to make your criticism.
but if you want to get all y... argentina in 06 with riquelme was a lot closer to beating germany than argentina in 10 with messi, now go write an essay explaining how it was all zanetti and cambiasso (you'll have to include a paragraph on why zanetti's magic didnt work in 98 and 02 and why the team fell apart when cambiasso came in), how the 06 german team was much better because of lehmann and ballack, how klinsmann is a better coach than low and pekerman a better coach than maradona, how playing at home in 06 played against germany because of the pressure and that playing in africa let them play relaxed, etc etc etc.
the irony of all this is, that Im not even looking to fight with you, you are worse than quixote. all i'm saying is that you prop messi up to much. if it helps you sleep at night, knock yourself out. For me, he is still only a talented dribbler and part time playmaker. when he is a god, he'll be a full time playmaker.
Find me a post where I said that Messi was the best of all time, and about the thread le is just that: a le. It doesn't mean anything, I don't even bealive in God, it's just a ing expression.
I don't know why it doesn't include all the plays (maybe it does), I don't know, I didn't make it. But it's obviously not a highlight reel when a lot of the plays shown are easy passes or common football plays/mistakes.anyways, if its not a highlight, you are telling me messi saw the ball for 5 minutes in a 90 minute game? almost all the balls he touched? so why almost, why not all, why did they include these and not others? you yourself said the play at 4:40 is awesome... yes, it was awesome how he navigated 4 defenders, but was it awesome how he waited unnecessarily for his teammate to be offside before hitting him with the pass?? like i said, he is good, has even better things ahead of him, but he is not the god you are painting him out to be.
I don't even remember what you said about Riquelme's FK, my point is that you're a Boca fan and is well known that Boca fans tend to dislike Messi because of his confrontation with Riquelme and the comparison with Maradona.you're the typical loser who brings in other things to an argument instead of answering directly. when have i ever said that riquelme is the best in the world? i said he is easily the best argentine freekick specialist, to which your retort was "you are a boca fan". if i'm wrong, who is the better FK specialist? i said maradona made some good changes and that for the most part i liked how he set the team up for the WC, but I said what IMO he did wrong. you didnt answer that either, you just cherry pick and wait for the results to make your criticism.
And about Maradona as a coach, wait for the results?! Didn't you see me ing about Maradona taking Garce instead of Zanetti and Cambiasso before the WC started? BTW, I also praised him when I thought he made some good moves during the WC.
What's the point of this? Are you trying to say that Riquelme is better than Messi 'cause in '06 we lost in the penalties and in '10 we lost by four? If that's the case, that's a stupid argument. Different teams, different games, different cir stances and last time I checked, footbal wasn't an individual game.but if you want to get all y... argentina in 06 with riquelme was a lot closer to beating germany than argentina in 10 with messi, now go write an essay explaining how it was all zanetti and cambiasso (you'll have to include a paragraph on why zanetti's magic didnt work in 98 and 02 and why the team fell apart when cambiasso came in), how the 06 german team was much better because of lehmann and ballack, how klinsmann is a better coach than low and pekerman a better coach than maradona, how playing at home in 06 played against germany because of the pressure and that playing in africa let them play relaxed, etc etc etc.
Yes, it helps me sleep at night so I will keep knocking myself out. I don't know why some people get so mad about somebody praising a player he likes, it's kind of weird and sad IMO, but hey! everybody has their own opinion and they are free to express it, just don't get defensive when somebody argues back.the irony of all this is, that Im not even looking to fight with you, you are worse than quixote. all i'm saying is that you prop messi up to much. if it helps you sleep at night, knock yourself out. For me, he is still only a talented dribbler and part time playmaker. when he is a god, he'll be a full time playmaker.
defensive? you're the one making assumptions about me. just because I'm a boca fan doesnt mean i dont like messi. But I have seen you say his club merits and technical abilities put him on a maradona level (he "just" needs a WC) and i just dont see it, there's more missing. you posted a clip and said to watch an awesome play. I watched it and for me it was only half awesome because he was needlessly late to pass and said so (and not just that play for that matter- like i said it wasnt a good video of him).
so who's the one getting defensive again? why bring in riquelme and boca? maybe i should just assume you are an insecure river fan. maybe i should just assume since you fill your avatar with girls, that you are a pervert or fat kid who doesnt get any. annoying isnt it? but you knew that already.
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