Page 66 of 163 FirstFirst ... 165662636465666768697076116 ... LastLast
Results 1,626 to 1,650 of 4052
  1. #1626
    Believe.
    My Team
    FIFA_Mexico
    Post Count
    2,957
    Messi has been great with Argentina, as soon as Sabella took over the reigns the team has been great, Messi especially, so Bynumite can't really use that argument anymore, well he can use it if Messi doesn't play well this upcoming WC I don't think they can overcome the Germans or Spain, but they will be there at the end, make no mistake about it. But if Messi plays like he has played these past two games, Argentina is getting kicked out in the first round.

    Messi is clearly the best player, when you see both Ronaldo and Messi play every game you'll quickly realize who's the best, well at least to those who aren't bias. Unfortunately he has performed way below his standards these past two games, they were the most important matches also.. not really good. But I'm confident he'll bounce back when they play Milan again, if he doesn't, well than we can worry.

  2. #1627
    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
    My Team
    Germany
    Post Count
    8,674
    Not sure if you're talking about Ronaldo or Missi here, but in Ronaldo's case that's certainly been the case for his entire career. For Missi, only lately.
    Ronaldo simply helped Real win the Copa del Rey and La Liga when he scored in big games vs Barca to seal those les, meanwhile the midget was always a non-factor in those games.

    Let's not forget the champions league and premier league les Ronaldo helped United win.

    Did i mention he always scored in the last 6 games at Barca's home? Choking doesn't get any worse than that tbh

    "Ronaldo choking in big games throughout his entire career" You're delusional as and just because you keep repeating that, doesn't make it true

    I'm saying he's the sole reason they're winning La Liga this season because he's scoring every crucial goal out there that turn draws or losses into wins. If you're been watching La Liga this season, this isn't really arguable.

    I said he's the sole reason Barça is winning La Liga this season. Quote where I said anything about carrying Argentina to anything? Oh, wait, I didn't.
    You have some serious comprehension issues, i didn't say you said anything about Argentina. But you did say Messi is the "sole reason" Barca is winning La Liga this season, which implies the midget can single-handedly carry teams to les regardless of the quality of his supporting cast. So i simply applied your own logic to the argie team Messi plays in, why isn't the midget winning any les with Argentina if the players around Messi are irrelevant since he can get a trophy all by himself like you said?

    It's a valid question tbh that you keep trying to spin and fail.

  3. #1628
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    Argentina
    Post Count
    152,905
    Ronaldo simply helped Real win the Copa del Rey and La Liga when he scored in big games vs Barca to seal those les, meanwhile the midget was always a non-factor in those games.

    Let's not forget the champions league and premier league les Ronaldo helped United win.

    Did i mention he always scored in the last 6 games at Barca's home? Choking doesn't get any worse than that tbh

    "Ronaldo choking in big games throughout his entire career" You're delusional as and just because you keep repeating that, doesn't make it true
    If you're going to look at the past, Missi simply won much more, and scored much more in crucial games. He scored on both of his CL finals (one that included Ronaldo as the scoreless loser). So that's really an argument you can't win.

    You really need to stick to his current slump, tbh.

    You have some serious comprehension issues, i didn't say you said anything about Argentina. But you did say Messi is the "sole reason" Barca is winning La Liga this season, which implies the midget can single-handedly carry teams to les regardless of the quality of his supporting cast. So i simply applied your own logic to the argie team Messi plays in, why isn't the midget winning any les with Argentina if the players around Messi are irrelevant since he can get a trophy all by himself like you said?
    You're the one that jumped to conclusions. As I've stated, he is the sole reason Barça is winning La Liga this season thanks to his timely goals every weekend that end up being game-winners (don't have to look past last weekend to see that).

    Dude scored 38 goals for Barça this season, the next Barça guy with most goals is Villa with 7. Not sure how you want to spin that one.

    If anything, I'm applying the same logic you're applying to Ronaldo by stating he won La Liga for RMAO last season.

    It's a valid question tbh that you keep trying to spin and fail.
    I never made the claim that Missi can carry Argentina on his own, not sure why you want me to answer a claim I never made. He should clearly be the best player in the Argentina NT, and he has been since Sabella has been the coach.
    Last edited by ElNono; 02-26-2013 at 10:50 PM.

  4. #1629
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    41,369
    damn was xavi and iniesta playin last night? lol cant even win with the 2 tosb

  5. #1630
    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
    My Team
    Germany
    Post Count
    8,674
    If you're going to look at the past, Missi simply won much more, and scored much more in crucial games. He scored on both of his CL finals (one that included Ronaldo as the scoreless loser). So that's really an argument you can't win.
    I wasn't comparing hardware, i was simply disagreeing with what you said, that Ronaldo keeps choking in big games throughtout his career, which is simply not true.

    You really need to stick his current slump, tbh.
    Current slump Barcafan makes it seem like Messi choked just in the last 2 games vs Real. When in reality his underperformances started late last season vs Real and Chelsea if not earlier and continued throughtout this season when Barca played against other elite euro clubs Sorry but his scoring records vs scrubs La Liga teams can't erase those choke jobs.

    If anything, I'm applying the same logic you're applying to Ronaldo by stating he won La Liga for RMAO last season.
    It's a fact, Ronaldo won La Liga last season but he wasn't the sole reason for Real's success in that compe ion, like you're saying about Messi.

    You're the one that jumped to conclusions. As I've stated, he is the sole reason Barça is winning La Liga this season thanks to his timely goals every weekend that end up being game-winners (don't have to look past last weekend to see that).

    Dude scored 38 goals for Barça this season, the next Barça guy with most goals is Villa with 7. Not sure how you want to spin that one.

    I never made the claim that Missi can carry Argentina on his own, not sure why you want me to answer a claim I never made. He should clearly be the best player in the Argentina NT, and he has been since Sabella has been the coach.
    You said it, Messi is light years ahead of his Barca teammates in the goal scoring department. Why does he fail to translate that dominance into national team football? And i'm talking about dominating final stages of national team compe ions, not friendly matches or qualification stages. The only reason i can find is the excellent Barca midfield behind him that can keep ball possession at high values and completely annihilate defenses with a few quick passes.

    The midget not dominating national team football the same way he can dominate club football makes me think you and other people don't give Barca players not named Messi enough credit, when the midget is surrounded by players that are or recently were in the discussion for the ballon d'or and not random scrubs. In fact, you guys put Messi on a pedestal and then say nonsensic like "Messi is the sole reason Barca is winning certain le."

  6. #1631
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    Argentina
    Post Count
    152,905
    I wasn't comparing hardware, i was simply disagreeing with what you said, that Ronaldo keeps choking in big games throughtout his career, which is simply not true.
    if he didn't he would have more hardware. You can pin whatever you want on Missi, but he contributed to every piece of hardware he has, both individual and team.

    Current slump Barcafan makes it seem like Messi choked just in the last 2 games vs Real. When in reality his underperformances started late last season vs Real and Chelsea if not earlier and continued throughtout this season when Barca played against other elite euro clubs Sorry but his scoring records vs scrubs La Liga teams can't erase those choke jobs.
    By the same rationale Ronaldo has been underperforming/choking in the CL since his Man UTD days. After all, Barça having a 16 pt lead on Madrid in the league only means Ronaldo has been underperforming even against the ty Getafes/Valencias of the world.

    It's a fact, Ronaldo won La Liga last season but he wasn't the sole reason for Real's success in that compe ion, like you're saying about Messi.
    I disagree. I think he was instrumental. It's not complicated, you can't replace either player on that team and win it. Other players you can, but not those two.

    You said it, Messi is light years ahead of his Barca teammates in the goal scoring department. Why does he fail to translate that dominance into national team football? And i'm talking about dominating final stages of national team compe ions, not friendly matches or qualification stages. The only reason i can find is the excellent Barca midfield behind him that can keep ball possession at high values and completely annihilate defenses with a few quick passes.
    Why would Messi need to be held to that standard when Ronaldo isn't? What final stages of national team compe ions has Ronaldo dominated either?

    Apparently, when it comes to Ronaldo, you only have to have dominated in a single game (El Clasico) and in UK football (with Man UTD), but when it comes to Messi, it has to be complete domination at every stage

    Again, the claim he's supposed to carry Argentina all on his own is yours and yours alone. If you want to make that claim, go ahead, but don't ask me to defend it.

    When it comes to this season's Barça league win, he has been instrumental to achieve that. There's no doubt about it.

    The midget not dominating national team football the same way he can dominate club football makes me think you and other people don't give Barca players not named Messi enough credit, when the midget is surrounded by players that are or recently were in the discussion for the ballon d'or and not random scrubs. In fact, you guys put Messi on a pedestal and then say nonsensic like "Messi is the sole reason Barca is winning certain le."
    But I don't generalize. I don't say "Everything Barça ever won is because of Missi". This La Liga season specifically is all on him. The rest of the team is struggling, especially on the scoring department.

    You also have two very different standards when it comes to Missi vs Ronaldo or anybody else. Ronaldo hasn't won at the national team level either. Cruyff, Platini never won with their national teams ever. You'll never say they're not great or even the best players at some point in their careers.

  7. #1632
    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
    My Team
    Germany
    Post Count
    8,674
    When a player wins 4 ballon d'or in a row and is currently considered the best player in the world, people obviously don't hold him to the standard they hold everybody else, act like you deserved to win said trophies, simple as that.

    Underperforming in multiple games with les on the line is not an option, one game is understandable, when that situation becomes an habit, of course people will start questioning your game and eventually realize the grass is greener on the other side.

  8. #1633
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    Argentina
    Post Count
    152,905
    Revisionist history is revisionist. Missi is only one goal away from tying DiStefano with the most goals in Clasicos. The claim that his poor play in Clasicos is an 'habit' is merely wishful thinking. All the way to last year he was scoring in Clasicos and beating Madrid out of the SuperCup (his goals vs Madrid here: http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/play...eal-Madrid.htm).

    That said, he should take the heat for not playing well lately... at the same time, he only needs to be better than the compe ion, and the compe ion right now has been choking to the Getafes and Valencias of the world, while accomplishing nothing on the european/national level either. You can't blame the midget for that. This would be a good time for the other worthy players to raise their games, but so far, crickets...

  9. #1634
    Believe. FYM's Avatar
    My Team
    Boca Juniors
    Post Count
    767
    Messi knows that WC is around the corner, he is getting ready to suck

  10. #1635
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592
    Messi knows that WC is around the corner, he is getting ready to suck

  11. #1636
    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
    My Team
    CA River Plate
    Post Count
    45,941
    I can't be here very often right now but is Dumbnimite really saying that Messi chokes in big games?

    I guess he doesn't know about Messi's records in Clasicos and finals.

    Hey , what you have to worry about first is Penaldo getting to the WC in Brazil.

  12. #1637
    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
    My Team
    Germany
    Post Count
    8,674
    I can't be here very often right now but is Dumbnimite really saying that Messi chokes in big games?

    I guess he doesn't know about Messi's records in Clasicos and finals.

    Hey , what you have to worry about first is Penaldo getting to the WC in Brazil.
    Midget ting the bed lately put FAP86 over the edge, usually he would simply regurgitate stats but the latest midget choke jobs are starting to bring out some aggressiveness and butthurtness

    If you're living in the past, sure, the midget is clutch as . But are you really gonna deny that he was MIA vs Chelsea and Real late last season and vs Milan and Real this season? Way too many terrible performances for a 4x ballon d'or winner in a short period of time vs elite teams, just saying.

  13. #1638
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592

  14. #1639
    Believe.
    My Team
    FIFA_Mexico
    Post Count
    2,957
    Maradona is just a drug addict got, fatso taking picture with that got shows that he was no loyalty to his boy Messi at all, he just sides with Messi when he's doing good.

  15. #1640
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
    My Team
    Boca Juniors
    Post Count
    20,267
    Maradona is just a drug addict got, fatso taking picture with that got shows that he was no loyalty to his boy Messi at all, he just sides with Messi when he's doing good.
    True, but why can't he also be a fan of Ronaldo? I don't see a problem.

  16. #1641
    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
    My Team
    Germany
    Post Count
    8,674
    Game recognize game.

    Barcafan with the oversensitive bads.

  17. #1642
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592

  18. #1643
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592
    GOD got a 4


  19. #1644
    Believe.
    My Team
    FIFA_Mexico
    Post Count
    2,957

  20. #1645
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592
    Yeah but the other ones arent

  21. #1646
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    Argentina
    Post Count
    152,905
    Madrid newspapers

  22. #1647
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592
    Madrid newspapers
    compare Mou and Roura's facial expressions

  23. #1648
    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
    My Team
    CA River Plate
    Post Count
    45,941
    Messi is already the top scorer (alongside Distefano) in Clasicos with 18. Greatness, tbh.

  24. #1649
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
    My Team
    Real Madrid CF
    Post Count
    100,592
    Well, he is a GOD to Asians

    Messi’s foot gets golden treatment

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS MARCH 7, 2013 12:04 AM










    0





    • STORY
    • PHOTOS ( 1 )






    An employee of Ginza Tanaka poses beside the golden replica of football star Lionel Messi of Argentine's left foot during its press preview in Tokyo on March 6, 2013. Priced at about 5.25 million USD, the 25-kilogram golden foot was created by Tokyo-based jewelry retailer, Ginza Tanaka, to commemorate Messi's record-breaking Ballon d'Or for four consecutive years and the world-record 91 goals he scored a calender year.

    Photograph by: Toshifumi Kitamura , AFP/Getty Images




    TOKYO - If anyone doubts Lionel Messi has a golden foot, now there's proof.
    A pure gold replica of his left foot was unveiled in Tokyo on Wednesday.
    The foot, which is valued at $5.25 million, was created by Japanese jeweler Ginza Tanaka to commemorate the football player's achievements.
    "It's exceptional. You can see each line in the foot. It's an impressive piece of work," Messi's brother, Rodrigo, said at the unveiling.
    The jeweler said he cast Messi's foot in Spain at the end of 2012.
    "We loved the sound of making the 'golden left foot,' and it being gold, it was our goal to make the project of recreating Messi's left foot a reality," said Masakazu Tanaka, president of the company that made the golden artifact.
    The foot will go on sale on Thursday, with an endorsement from the Leo Messi Foundation, which helps children at risk around the world.
    Other golden artifacts going on sale are Messi's golden footprint worth $94,500 and the "Golden Foot Mini," which is half the size of the actual golden foot, worth $42,000.
    Part of the proceeds will go to Messi's foundation, which in turn will go to support children in areas affected by the earthquake and tsunami disaster that hit Japan in March 2011.Japan in 2011.







    Read more:http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...#ixzz2Mq5UYbPf

  25. #1650
    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
    My Team
    Argentina
    Post Count
    152,905
    never shows up in important games

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 2 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •