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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    WTF?

    So was this explosion Environmental Terrorism? Pretty cir stantial that it happened right after Obama came out in support of more offshore drilling and the explosion happened just hours before Earth Day started...

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    WTF?

    So was this explosion Environmental Terrorism? Pretty cir stantial that it happened right after Obama came out in support of more offshore drilling and the explosion happened just hours before Earth Day started...
    Wow, not that I don't believe you, but . . . link? I want to read about it.

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    Obama just said it himself a few minutes ago at the White House. I heard the announcement semi-live on the radio. He was doing some "teacher of the year" presentation and talked about the rig leak for a couple of minutes.
    Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 04-29-2010 at 02:06 PM.

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    if that was an environmental terrorist attack, itd probably be the most counter-productive one in history.

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    Obama just said it himself a few minutes ago at the White House. I heard the announcement semi-live on the radio. He was doing some "teacher of the year" presentation and talked about the rig leak for a couple of minutes.
    I would guess that it was in response to a question, posed by someone. Have to hear the quote to know what to think.

    Smells like a conspiracy theory with little basis in fact other than "coincidence" DUN DUN DUN!

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    if that was an environmental terrorist attack, itd probably be the most counter-productive one in history.
    If one's goal was to show the dangers/vulnerabilities of offshore oil rigs, I would disagree. Counter-productive to garnering sympathy perhaps, but as far as highlighting the dangers of such activities...

    Terrorism almost universally tends to be counter-productive to any given cause though.

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    At this point, the best I could find was that several agencies are conducting an coordinated investigation, and I would be pretty sure that terrorism is a possibility that is being considered as a potential cause, just as arson is always looked for in any large fire.

    http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/site/2931/

    I would judge the liklihood that this was intentional to be fairly low.

    Ecoterrorists generally aren't sophisticated/trained/competant enough to pull off something so spectacular. Land-based arson is usually the modus operendi.

    Much more likely is that it was an industrial accident.

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    yeah but millions of gallons of oil leaked into the gulf would save the whales for sure.

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    Excellent effect

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    here's your link

    http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/AOL News/obama-to-use-every-resource-to-help-oil-spill/82058511001

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    Interesting, thanks.

    I would defer judgement until getting some clarification.

    The man did say "swat teams".

    http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SWAT

    Acronym Definition
    SWAT Special Weapons And Tactics (team)
    SWAT Scandinavian Workshop on Algorithm Theory
    SWAT Samba Web Administration Tool
    SWAT Soil and Water Assessment Tool (river basin model)
    SWAT Students Working Against Tobacco
    SWAT Students Working to Advance Technology
    SWAT Special Weapons Attack Team (original name; now usually seen as Special Weapons And Tactics)
    SWAT Students With A Testimony
    SWAT Subjective Workload Assessment Technique
    SWAT Sex Workers' Alliance of Toronto
    SWAT Solid Waste Assessment Test
    SWAT Special Winning At ude Team
    SWAT Submillimeter Wave Advanced Technology
    SWAT Seattle Washington Autoduel Team
    SWAT Students with a Target (student/police partnership program in Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
    SWAT Solutions with Advanced Technologies (Cisco)
    SWAT Sisters With A Throttle (motorcycle club)
    SWAT Strategic Weapons and Tactics (TV show)
    SWAT Skilled With Advanced Tools (software development)
    SWAT South West Alief Texas
    SWAT Servants with A Testimony
    SWAT Scientific Wild Ass Guess
    SWAT Swift Action Team
    SWAT Specialists With Advanced Tools
    SWAT Sell What's Available Today
    SWAT Software Analysis and Testing (or Quality Assurance)
    SWAT Students Winning Against Tobacco (Texas)
    SWAT Satellite, Wideband, and Telemetry (systems)
    SWAT Short Wavelength Adaptive Technology
    SWAT Sick Wild and Twisted (band)
    SWAT Secure Wire Access Terminal
    SWAT Spiritual Warfare and Training (youth ministry)
    SWAT Skilled Workers with Advanced Tools
    SWAT surface water assessment team
    SWAT SouthWest Airedale Terriers
    SWAT Staff Without Adequate Training
    SWAT Strengths, Weaknesses, Achievements & Threats (assessment)
    SWAT Subsea Well Abandonment Tool
    SWAT System Wide Analysis Team
    SWAT Southwest Aquatics of Texas
    SWAT Satellite-Based Worldwide Availability Tool
    SWAT Solid Waste Assessment Team
    SWAT Squad Weapons Analytical Trainer
    SWAT Seeds, Weeds, And Trash
    SWAT Service Weapons Acceptability Test
    SWAT Ship What's Available Today
    SWAT Sanibel Water Attack Team (swimming)
    SWAT Southwest Association of Trackers
    SWAT Sticks With Ass-kicking Tactics
    SWAT Software Wireless Access Tandem
    SWAT Soldiers With Apostolic Truth
    SWAT Server, Workstation And Technology Group
    SWAT Surface Weapons Against Torpedoes
    SWAT Switch Assembly Test
    SWAT Soul Winning Across Town
    SWAT Strengths, Weakness, Advantages & Threats (assessment)
    SWAT Southwest Area Vocational-Technical (school)
    SWAT Scout Water Activity Team
    SWAT Seeking Wisdom and Truth (Christianity)
    SWAT Saints With A Testimony (LDS church)
    Generally it is the first usage, Special Weapons And Tactics for paramilitary police forces to sweep areas. My guess that was indeed the case, but bear in mind that the man might have been handed a briefing paper with that abbreviation for these things that seem pertinent to rigs:

    Subsea Well Abandonment Tool
    Surface Water Assessment Team

    I dunno. I guess we get to find out.

    Extra security on rigs would seem prudent, until the ultimate cause of the explosion on the downed rig was known, IMO. If I were a politician bent on covering my ass, that is what I would do.

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    if that was an environmental terrorist attack, itd probably be the most counter-productive one in history.

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    Interesting, thanks.

    I would defer judgement until getting some clarification.

    The man did say "swat teams".

    http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SWAT



    Generally it is the first usage, Special Weapons And Tactics for paramilitary police forces to sweep areas. My guess that was indeed the case, but bear in mind that the man might have been handed a briefing paper with that abbreviation for these things that seem pertinent to rigs:

    Subsea Well Abandonment Tool
    Surface Water Assessment Team

    I dunno. I guess we get to find out.

    Extra security on rigs would seem prudent, until the ultimate cause of the explosion on the downed rig was known, IMO. If I were a politician bent on covering my ass, that is what I would do.
    My guess is that he just ed up...they are sending inspection teams and he was off teleprompter and called them SWAT teams. They have already burned the link I posted. They will either cover it up/ignore it completely or if Gibbs gets cornered he will say that it stood for something else like Special Well Assessment Team.
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