When does it ever stop, man? The future of the young worker is bleak. No jobs, high taxes, tons of compe ion.
Taxes will be raised again. I never implied they should be or that's my plan.
How about we eliminate every single other unnecessary expense from government spending first? Congress and the Senate could set up and vote on a committee, of non-representatives and non-senators, with that ability. I'm oversimplifying, of course.How about we raise taxes and keep them higher until we are pretty much out of debt, then scale back taxes as the interest charges drop?
I just don't see why the government can spend and borrow unconditionally while bailing out private en ies with ungodly sums of public money, then turn around and raise taxes. It's unjust and I can't support it.
Yes, being in debt you can actually pay off, and within a reasonable timeframe is fine. No ideas for decreasing the debt substantially or entirely exist that have any political merit all things considered, and a timeframe? LMAO. With the way parties go back and forth in popularity in this country, and both loving to spend spend spend $$$$$, it won't be long before that saved money in the bank is worth nada and our national debt is tens of trillions..Government debt is not all bad, as US Treasuries offer a rather valuable commodity: risk-free assets that earn some return, so I don't think getting rid of US government debt is an entirely good thing.
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When does it ever stop, man? The future of the young worker is bleak. No jobs, high taxes, tons of compe ion.
When we slash spending, raise taxes and get out of debt.
When's that?
In all likelihood, not until we're totally ed.
Well, you never want to do that because it's too hard (or against your principles).
That's the problem.
Yeah, it's definitely against my principles to run up debt on someone else's bill then charge them extra for it like it's their fault. Hopefully it's against yours too, no matter how necessary the impending tax increase shall be.
At least show me some progress. Slash spending substantially before taxes are raised and maybe I wouldn't feel so hesitant trusting the best government money can buy.
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It is all our faults. No one wants to accept any responsibility, including you.
That's the problem.
What am I responsible for in
a) driving down our national debt and
b) slashing government spending?
Do you vote?
As far as I'm concerned we've been living off the largess of government spending for at least three generations. It's time to pay. Sucks to be us, but if we're serious about it, that's what needs to be done.
Being only 21 years old, I don't see how I could have changed, or should be blamed, for transgressions snowballing over decades OR held accountable for our stupid two party system, but yes I do.
Maybe you have.As far as I'm concerned we've been living off the largess of government
It ain't fair, z. But who said life was fair?
It ain't fair, indeed. When do I get my bailout?
You're responsible. , even by not voting you'd be responsible. We all are responsible.
As have you.Maybe you have.
The problem now is that most people think like you. You don't really want to fix anything if it cuts into what you perceive should be your future lifestyle.
That's fine, just don't complain when things get worse.
In the tiniest, most miniscule, 1 out of 310 million people and a young one at that, who didn't vote in most of the men and women who put us in this predicament type of way, perhaps I am.
Give some examples.As have you.
Yep.
Have you lived in the US?Give some examples.
Yep. Don't want to fix anything, they just want it fixed. "They" meaning America ( yeah).
And what, specifically, am I at fault for?
You're not at fault for dude. There, feel better? Is your economic future any brighter?
WH, whenever we discuss this situation just realize that I feel that the vast majority of Americans are Zosas. Maybe then my comments come more into context.
I'm not the one who ever pointed fingers. I didn't say it's anyone's fault. I didn't blame the left or the right. I said the government itself, needs limiting factors placed on itself.
Sorry you're so mad at yourself for no reason and I refuse to blame myself for corrupt politicians' actions.
The vast majority of Americans are z0sas? "Critical thinkers never over-generalize."WH, whenever we discuss this situation just realize that I feel that the vast majority of Americans are Zosas. Maybe then my comments come more into context.
Living off the overall benefits of deficit spending.
It's been a great ride, hasn't it?
This is not a direct democracy, Chump. We have little control over federal and state spending from an individual level.
No .
Don't worry z0sa, enough people feel the same way you do so nothing will actually change. Thirty years or so down the road, your kid can act all indignant and superior because you didn't do about it either.
So why are you having so much difficulty understanding that the American populace didn't make these decisions for themselves?
Blaming every American, whether they vote or not, whether old or young, for choices they didn't make is senseless.
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