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Ahhh....just variety. I carry a .38 S&W model 642 in my back pocket at the ranch and keep a Para Ordinance P12 in the truck.
I don't like to shoot pistols much bigger than that.
I actually prefer shotguns for self defense if it ever gets serious.
CC, you don't strike me as a 9mm kind of guy.
maybe a revolver in .45LC or something...
Ahhh....just variety. I carry a .38 S&W model 642 in my back pocket at the ranch and keep a Para Ordinance P12 in the truck.
I don't like to shoot pistols much bigger than that.
I actually prefer shotguns for self defense if it ever gets serious.
Because as cloudy and muddy as the issues underlying the Civil War have become, it was about slavery and nothing else.
The forced bondage of human beings to be owned as property and be recognized as such by the law. Property and nothing more.
Good lawyers argue that the Civil War was about state rights and a states ability to self determine.
Bull .
Lincoln, for as noble as he is held by history, was a pussy on the issue. He was willing to allow slavery to continue in the established Southern states and let them determine when the atrocity would end. What he wouldnt budge on is the expansion of slavery to (for example) the Missouri Territory which was applying for statehood.
Thats what the war was about. And nothing about it should change the Cons utional rights provided by the Federal government.
States can and should be self determinate...so long as their law does not abridge the Cons ution.
For example, drugs and drug use is not in the Cons ution. There are Federal laws against them, state laws as well. But that is a current issue that should be left to the States, because their law in no way undermines the Consitution and its protections.
State and city gun laws, however, do undermine the Consitutional rights of citizens. The fact that is was a meager 5-4 vote bodes negative for gun owners and Cons uional authority. Because the implication that a state or city can restrict the Cons utional rights of citizens has far-reaching implications. It cant be a case-by-case argument, meaning "Oh, guns you can regulate, but free speech you cant". The Consitution either is fully and wholly the absolute Law of the Land, or it is not.
If it is not and local authorities can determine what applies and what does not, then...this country has a serious problem.
Moreover, I think youre suggesting that the Civil War and the amendments that came from it should have alleviated citizen fear of overzealous government. If I am reading you right, that seems a strange thing to suggest that perception is the key here and that once perception should have changed due the CW (although there is no reason to believe a universal shift should have or even did happen), then all Americans after the CW should have just bowed to Federal authority on the grounds and lessons learned during the CW.
That is odd.
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Ha...
I am actually upgrading to a S&W .40
Maybe one day when I grow up, I'll get a .45M
I own a Ruger Security Six .357 magnum. I can get 4-5" groupings at 45 ft with only a 2.75" barrel. While not great, I'm pretty happy with that grouping.
Alot of fun to start off with .38 loads then squeeze off a few magnums.
Yes we do.
You said crazy happens all the time.
You keep a 9mm next to your pillow because you are afraid the crazy might happen to you.
I don't really fault anyone that does, but I don't really fear the crazy .
That's really all.
I'll let you guys handle the close in stuff. I specialize in the long range stuff. I'm not military sniper quality but head shots at 350 yds are well within my capability.
Blake, I'll ask again: If guns were illegal, do you think criminals wouldn't have guns? Would have less guns?
I have no experience with long range shooting. The range I go to only goes out to 200yds.I'll let you guys handle the close in stuff. I specialize in the long range stuff. I'm not military sniper quality but head shots at 350 yds are well within my capability.
I think Bullethole in San Antonio goes out to 300yds, but that is a long drive for me.
other than that, I need to know somebody that has some land...
We go prairie dog hunting every memorial weekend out in West Texas. 300-500 yard shots on a target the size of a beer can are pretty normal.
http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.co...exas-from.htmlWhat if any impact on Texas from extension of Second Amendment by SCOTUS to the states?
Yesterday the US Supreme Court decided that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applies to the states. As Matthew Scarola at SCOTUSBlog put it, "Today’s opinion in McDonald v. City of Chicago means that for the first time, state and local governments’ gun regulations must comport with the Second Amendment’s protection of the right 'to keep and bear Arms.'”
Scarola thinks "McDonald’s extension of the Second Amendment to state and local gun regulation will undoubtedly prompt a flood of firearm-related litigation – especially because the Court did not specify a standard of review." Along those lines, “Justice Stevens lamented, 'today’s decision . . . could mire the federal courts in fine-grained determinations about which state and local regulations comport with the er right . . . under a standard of review we have not even established.'”
Willl Texas see any successful gun rights litigation based on McDonald? We're already a pretty gun friendly state, but there are also stiff penalties for certain gun crimes. I wonder if any Texas statutes - or perhaps ordinances by municipalities - may be implicated by the McDonald decision?
Doug Berman notes that the court held "individual gun rights are 'fundamental,' they help safeguard another 'basic right,' and they must not be treated as 'second-class [and thus] subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees'." This raises the question of whether felons can lose their "fundamental" right to bear arms after their sentence is complete; after all, they don't lose their rights to free speech, which is also a "fundamental" and "basic right." Scarola also raised this question, saying "In McDonald, the court left this area of the law in turmoil."
Agree to disagree, then.
...thats ing ridiculous...
30-30? 30-06? Poor dog, a .50?
Or, are you the type that uses a black rifle? 5.56 or 7.62?
I mean, I dont think a .22LR reaches that far, does it?
nevermind
I wanna be friends with youWe go prairie dog hunting every memorial weekend out in West Texas. 300-500 yard shots on a target the size of a beer can are pretty normal.
edit: I know there is nothing out in west texas, but I thought it was all privately owned. Some states you can drive off somewhere and set up targets and shoot - 500yds or whatever. Can you do that in TX?
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A .17hmr out to 200 and a 22-250 beyond that.
I think criminals would have illegal guns, as some currently illegally possess them today.
If we are talking handguns, if making handguns also became illegal, I would think there would be less handguns.
I think you think wrong. The means to manufacture handguns is incredibly simple. A person say, like myself, could easily and cheaply fabricate handguns from literally scratch and sell them on the black market for astronomical prices to a crime world that would pay it happily.
Youd basically create an equal problem the size of the drug trade. A multi-multi-billion dollar, untaxed industry.
not only that, but there are millions and millions of handguns already around. Stopping making them will do absolutely nothing.
Much like making alcohol during the Prohibition Era illegal prevented criminals from selling alcohol, or the current War on Drugs prevents people from purchasing drugs?
eh, you could be right...or wrong. I haven't really done any real looking into the gun manufacturing part because I don't really see it as an issue for me.
Whether legal or illegal, I think the criminal element that wants to use a gun for something like a drive by shooting will always be there.
What I currently think is that there are too many stupid people with guns, like Miamiheat's dad. I think that kind of stupidity needs to be taken off the streets.
The bolded part is the true part. Stupid people will find ways to be stupid and possibly hurt others. Guns just make it easier to cause more damage.
Yeah, it's all private. We basically rent a 13,000 acre ranch for the weekend. I drag my BBQ pit out there and we eat, drink, shoot, and tell lies for 4 days.I wanna be friends with you
edit: I know there is nothing out in west texas, but I thought it was all privately owned. Some states you can drive off somewhere and set up targets and shoot - 500yds or whatever. Can you do that in TX?
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We have definitely taken some fun hardware out there in the past. Our recent favorite is 20 gauge grenade simulators. you just shoot them out of a regular shotgun. They blow up with a big bang and big puff of yellow smoke. the dead prairie dogs attract buzzards and we will shoot the grenade simulators at the buzzards flying around...like shooting flak at airplanes LOL. That and tannerite. When the prairie dog shooting gets slim we will just set up a 400 yard tannerite range. Theres no arguing hits and misses LOL.
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You should see if you can get any C4... makes a fun boom.
Check my edit. We use tannerite.
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