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It's only July...
Are you serious? He had some good defensive "plays" but he was a slightly below average defender overall.
You did not answer my question. Do you truly believe that the Spurs could not have replaced RJ's production from last year?
Malik is clearly a better defender than RJ.
It's only July...
I don't know if you're aware, but Tony is much more valuable as a player than as an expiring contract. When are you going to deal him? Do you want him to be talking contracts mid-season with another team?
RJ's a bad fit for this team. One more season here isn't going to change that.
I don't think the Spurs could have replaced what were going to get from RJ this season.... no
What did RJ bring to the table. All I have said is that RJ's value could have been replaced or at least they could have gotten close.
RJ is the best player available overall, but not as a fit.
That is not what I asked. I said last season.
Also, who are you going to deal him to that wants him as a one year rental?
That is an excellent "option."
You are pretty level headed I can tell and don't speak based off of emotion as much as others on this board.....cheers to you dude.
We won les with worse players than RJ! He might actually mesh like others have over the years.
Malik is already a better defender, so that helps there. A guy like Simmons could have replaced the 3 PT shooting and combined I think him and Malik could have gotten enough points (Maybe 8 PPG) to keep things close with improved defense and 3 PT shooting.
Oh my god bro. I don't want to trade Tony and I never wanted to trade Tony and I think it would be a terrible idea to trade Tony. You were telling me that Dallas has positioned themselves in a better position to win the championship because they could "potentially" trade for cp3 around the trade deadlineand then you said they left themselves with options and we have no options. I just said that trading TP would be an option. Yes, I understand its a ty option.. but its an option correct????????
Dallas has $26m expiring right now...
Spurs? $13.5m from Tony...
and I told you he will be better next season.
You are pretty level headed I can tell and don't speak based off of emotion as much as others on this board.....cheers to you dude.
We won les with worse players than RJ! He might actually mesh like others have over the years.
if the 4yrs/$40 million is true, then it's either pop really believes in jefferson or the entire FO has gone crazy. this definitely sounds like a prearranged deal, which begs the question why the spurs want jefferson locked up long term and not give him another year before offering another contract.
We have won les with worse players than RJ no doubt. That was because they were system players.You are pretty level headed I can tell and don't speak based off of emotion as much as others on this board.....cheers to you dude.
We won les with worse players than RJ! He might actually mesh like others have over the years.
They were players who meant more to the Spurs than they did to other teams because of the system and fit.
The whole was greater than the sum of it's parts.
But that's all a bit irrelevant isn't it? At least until we have some clue what is going to happen with the CBA
Based on what? The whopping 472 minutes Hairston has in his NBA career, most of which came during garbage time? I don't see how you can definitively say Malik is a better defender when he has yet to guard any of the guys Richard Jefferson has been asked to guard.
That's a lot of cheese and doesn't make a whole lot of sense if it's fully guaranteed and backloaded with standard escalations each year. Still, it's informed speculation at this point...not factual.
So you are arguing the Mavs have good options and the Spurs have ty options?Oh my god bro. I don't want to trade Tony and I never wanted to trade Tony and I think it would be a terrible idea to trade Tony. You were telling me that Dallas has positioned themselves in a better position to win the championship because they could "potentially" trade for cp3 around the trade deadline
You are also arguing since the Spurs beat the Mavs, they are better than the Mavs, but the Suns who swept the Spurs just showed the Spurs weren't far off from the "pack"?
That and watching RJ get burnt and lost. I hate that argument btw. The "limited minutes". I know it is taking it to the extreme, but you could say "how do you know Blake Griffin is better than Tiago"...same dumb principle.
Malik has the talent on defense. He always has. That is not the reason he did not stick. It is his offense.
Just because someone is not in the league or a better player overall does not mean they cannot possess a pretty obvious advantage over an NBA player in one area.
Those expiring contracts don't get CP3. They would need to trade for him in order to do so, and no way does NO take back expiring junk for their franchise player. You take back good picks or young players. NO can get that.
Those expiring $ will be good to get a dumped player that is expensive but good, historically.
A big assumption in all these arguments is that RJ will perform the same way next year for the Spurs. Given recent history of free agents to hit SA with a First Year of Suck, I'd say RJ can do better next year and will. He will go through another training camp with the guys all fresh (incl a rejuvenated TP hopefully) and be ready to run.
But yes, I agree the contract stinks, even if the final year is is a team option. My guess is the Spurs will be shopping him before Tim retires.
Hairston played more defence in that 472 minutes then RJ did all season.
Everyone in the business can't be wrong about our front office being stellar....can they? This is there jobs to make these decisions and I am willing to bet all dynamics have and were taken into consideration. You must know all facts before you can make informed decisions.
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