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Now there we agree. The Spurs could have gotten RJ for less than what they did IMO.
Assuming that the 4/40 report does turn out to be accurate.
Now there we agree. The Spurs could have gotten RJ for less than what they did IMO.
Assuming that the 4/40 report does turn out to be accurate.
It's easier to be good on a shorter PT, you can give more, you're not "expected"...
I agree with coyote_geek on the fact that people always draws quick conclusions with players who don't play a lot, in a positive and a negative way...
We saw it with Hill where at some point last year some posters on ST really thought he was better that Tony...
Hairston might be good, but he didn't prove anything...yet.
I will say it again, I definitely understand that this move wasn't necessarily a good move 3 or 4 years from now but with Duncan and Manu retiring I don't really care to analyze what's going to happen then.
Not if it was a pre-arranged deal
Oh, I agree with all of that, but having great value contracts like Splitter's(and potentially some of the young guys) is negated when you're severely overpaying for Jefferson and overpaying Bonner..
I do agree that that is too much money.
I seriously doubt there are any Spurs fans that are rooting for him to fail so they can say "see I told you he wasn't worth the money". I'm hoping he turns out to be worth every penny of that fat bloated contract he just signed and can keep the Spurs competetive when Parker, Manu and Duncan are gone.
I will say..
There's a chance that timvp is bull ting us here, preparing us for the worst case scenario so that we're more willing to embrace Jefferson's return after hearing the contract is less than the projected 4-year/40..
Splitter: I want MLE.Not if it was a pre-arranged deal
FO: We'd like to, but we have already committed to overpaying Bonner and RJ.
Splitter: Damn...I feel sorry for you guys. I will take less.
i had no problem with jefferson staying this year because he may just fit in. the spurs might need the scoring with ginobili and duncan in fast decline. but i am opposed to the longer contract. this was obviously prearranged. why would the spurs willingly give jefferson such a longer contract? the money they save this year will most likely be offset by jefferson's long term contract.
i would rather the spurs just bite the bullet this year, take the luxury tax hit, and evaluate jefferson's ability at the end of next season. they should not be offering a long term contract after jefferson's horrible year. there is no justification.
I do tend to recall Hairston giving Lebron, and Prince fits a couple of seasons ago. I wouldn't call those guys second unit guys.
Talent wise Hairston isn't better then RJ but I think he is tougher and he is naturally a better defender even though RJ has a of alot more experience on his belt.
I will say..
There's a chance that timvp is bull ting us here, preparing us for the worst case scenario so that we're more willing to embrace Jefferson's return after hearing the contract is less than the projected 4-year/40
nothing is official yet!!
As much as I respect timvp's "insights", he could be wrong on the numbers...
he's not as good of a player as RJ for sure, but it's not a stretch to say Hairston's a better defender. Who did RJ shut down last year, what game was his best defensive game? I can't remember one.
I remember Malik playing pretty good D against melo the year before last when Pop sat the starters and overall his D has been pretty good in games he's played. His shooting - not so much.
And I will say, that I had the same thought.I will say..
There's a chance that timvp is bull ting us here, preparing us for the worst case scenario so that we're more willing to embrace Jefferson's return after hearing the contract is less than the projected 4-year/40
Just relaying truth, son.
Nobody as to admit to . None of us have any idea what the market for Jefferson was nor how the negotiations with the Spurs went at any point.
You can go ahead and assume based on nothing but speculation but that does not make it true.
Any chance RJ's 4 year contract begins with the first year being the lowest, say 8 million and then increasing? His last year could be the highest, which would give the Spurs a pretty good expiring contract.
I agree about the contract length. But we have one of the smartest FO's out there. My point is that I used to think some guys were untradable, not because of their talent, but because of their contract. An excellent example is Maggette. What I realized that is that there will always be stupid ing GMs out there that seem to overpay and overtrade. In case RJ completely flops, hopefully we can trade him to the wolves because Kahn thinks RJs passing ability is as good as Vlade Divac's.
How so? 15.2 million guaranteed + tax penalty incurred by the team vs. doing each other a favor and obtaining services back for those monies from a NBA vet. Not hustled....not even close! Not the greatest deal i will agree, but certainly not the worse (see atlanta and joe johnson).
real talk.
Hairston couldn't give Lebron fits if he laced his Gatorade with meth before the game.
Because to some the uncertainity of the future has lessened the value of expiring contracts...I can see it either way myself
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