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    I'm not sure you can call this a direct debunking, but it's from RJ's mouth:

    “Awesome, I wish it was sanctioned by the league,” he said of his experience at Nike Pro City. “It was good compe ion – great compe ion. I’ve only been working out for two or three days and these guys were really getting up and down the court.”


    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_...EHHVd3AHPSSgWL

    If he had only worked out once or twice as of July 13th, I'm not sure how he's been working with Pop all summer.
    Workout doesn't necessarily mean conditioning. He could have been reviewing defensive positioning or adjusting certain offensive sets. Heck, he could even be working on his jump shot. That won't mean that he has energy to get up and down the court with people that have been working out all summer.

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    My guess is that they offered this contract (whatever it is) to start with and he went looking to see if anyone would beat it.

    There wasn't the interest from other teams in beating this deal so he went back to the Spurs and they honored their offer.

    I really don't know why fans get so involved in the contract details. It's like the money was coming out of their pockets instead of Holt's.

    Or maybe they want the guy to take the vet minimum simply because they didn't like his level of performance last year. Sorry guys, but contracts aren't designed to be reward or punishment according to the whims of fans.

    Spurs signed him. We own his playing rights. He is a Spur again. Let's move on.

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    and scola signed with the rockets for less

    I understand that RJ was probably our best bet right now and expected the FO to bring him back, but like El Nono said, the FO has just given reward-type deals to the two softest guys on the team, precisely when one of our problems is lack of toughness (physical and mental). Its a slap in the face. I hope like everyone else that RJ can improve on certain things (FG%, rotations), but he will always be too mentally fragile to be of any use to this team, much less worth 10M a year.

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    I don't think there is any question Malik is a better defender. A bettter NBA player? No. Better defender? Yes.
    What do you base this on? Your scouting from your couch?

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    4 years and $40 mil sound about right for RJ. Very likely the final year is a team option. This keeps the Spurs out of the luxury tax plus still leaves flexibility for us to use the rest of our MLE and the LLE and still remain under the luxury tax. Great move by the FO and RJ. I don't care how much RJ, TD, TP, Bonner, etc. are getting paid individually as long as the total team salary doesn't exceed the luxury tax. The other thing this does is enhance the reputation of the Spurs organization as a desirable place for players to come. They take care of their players.
    Good post. The spurs were in a position where they could not low ball Jefferson without if having negative effects on Jefferson's at ude and the perception it would leave that they low balled the offer.

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    Well what rookies has pop sat on the bench that should have played? Obviously Parker was starting his rookie season. Manu played his rookie year. Hill could have been utilized more and he publicly said he made a mistake on that. Blair could have gotten some more minutes last year i guess? who else? you act like he has been piling rookies on our bench who should have been playing the last decade? I can think of one... Beno Udrih, who did play for us as a rookie unfortunately.
    Hill, Blair, Oberto, Pops Mensah-Bonsu...

    Ok, the last one was just a joke...

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    4 years and $40 mil sound about right for RJ. Very likely the final year is a team option. This keeps the Spurs out of the luxury tax plus still leaves flexibility for us to use the rest of our MLE and the LLE and still remain under the luxury tax. Great move by the FO and RJ. I don't care how much RJ, TD, TP, Bonner, etc. are getting paid individually as long as the total team salary doesn't exceed the luxury tax. The other thing this does is enhance the reputation of the Spurs organization as a desirable place for players to come. They take care of their players.
    Except this would mean that if the Spurs use the LLE and the rest of the MLE that they would almost certainly be paying the tax.

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    My guess is that they offered this contract (whatever it is) to start with and he went looking to see if anyone would beat it.

    There wasn't the interest from other teams in beating this deal so he went back to the Spurs and they honored their offer.

    I really don't know why fans get so involved in the contract details. It's like the money was coming out of their pockets instead of Holt's.

    Or maybe they want the guy to take the vet minimum simply because they didn't like his level of performance last year. Sorry guys, but contracts aren't designed to be reward or punishment according to the whims of fans.

    Spurs signed him. We own his playing rights. He is a Spur again. Let's move on.

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    Hill, Blair, Oberto, Pops Mensah-Bonsu...

    Ok, the last one was just a joke...
    pops

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    It certainly hurts the re building process. Are the spurs a contender with RJ this year?
    They're closer to being contenders with RJ than they are without him.

    His contract does...
    Let's see what the contract details are first before making that judgement.

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    Let's see what the contract details are first before making that judgement.
    Agree.

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    Workout doesn't necessarily mean conditioning. He could have been reviewing defensive positioning or adjusting certain offensive sets. Heck, he could even be working on his jump shot. That won't mean that he has energy to get up and down the court with people that have been working out all summer.
    I agree the quote is not proof he hasn't been working out with Pop, but by the same token Wojo's sources don't cons ute proof to me either.

    I expect improvement from RJ, but I'm skeptical of a big leap in production, which is what we'll need if we're going to win #5.

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    Don Harris just stated on TV that they have the contract details....

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    Don Harris just stated on TV that they have the contract details....

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    4 years 38 million

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    4yrs/$38.8 mill. 1st year is $8.4

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    first year is like 8 something the first year

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    So? Four years from now the Spurs window will be closed, nailed shut and bricked over so RJ's presence doesn't hurt anything.
    This

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    4 yrs $38.8 mil

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    4yrs/$38.8 mill. 1st year is $8.4
    Well, I've been saying that I thought someone would give RJ 3/$30mil or 4/$40mil, but I really didn't think it was going to be the Spurs.

    Definitely overpaying IMO, and would have preferred a sign and trade at that price. Apparently the FO feels RJ is a big part of the future. I guess we'll see.

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    Either Jefferson or nobody at the 3 spot for the next couple of seasons.

    This contract is not worth getting agitated about.

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    So were looking at 11 or 12 million in his last year.

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    4yrs/$38.8 mill. 1st year is $8.4
    This is confirmed?

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