RJ's Contract Details

[Chieflion]

Malik is a better defender. Barnes. If the Spurs were able to actively pursue some people via FA, who knows whom they could have obtained. Are you saying there are no better defenders via FA?

Malik is also quite foul prone too. Does his impact on the defensive end outweigh his inability to do anything on the offensive end at the NBA level? I don't think so.

If Barnes had wanted to join the Spurs, he would have done so. He didn't. He went to the Lakers even though there were some war of twitter. Realistically, an agreement between the Spurs and the FA has to go both ways.

[Blackjack]

Seen only in GIF format, one could be made to believe that Mr. Jackson is watching something of the questionable, and maybe even illegal, variety.

A young one.



























HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

[DPG21920]

So who is that mythical player you are talking about? Because I don't think that player exists, at least not in my realm in the free agency market.

A guy like Barnes who took an amount of money the Spurs had to offer. You can argue he might not want to play for the Spurs or they don't want him, but he is an example.

No one knows whom the Spurs could have obtained if they were focused on other FA's seriously and not committed to RJ.

I didn't say Jefferson was worth the 40 million commitment, he clearly isn't in terms of basketball play. But the Spurs honored him with that contract as an agreement. The expiring in 2014 should help down the line.

The Spurs made a mistake in doing so and they overpaid. His expiring contract for this year would have been very appealing, or as appealing. It is my opinion that expiring contracts are overvalued and the team usually has to take back a bad contract (like how the Spurs acquired RJ), and we don't know if the Spurs would be willing to do so when they are rebuilding.

I said the Spurs tried their best to improve the team with their limited assets. They can't help it if they couldn't trade for Carmelo Anthony or unrealistic stuff like that. I don't think it would lead to a championship but let us not delude ourselves into thinking the Spurs are not trying to be as good as a team they want to be. Clearly, the goal is to make the best team possible as far as financially, and realistic as it is.

They did not try to really improve the team that much, they tried to save money more it appears. Getting swept and bringing in the same players plus a handful of NBA rookies is not exactly "going for it". No one said they had to trade for Melo or Lebron. That still does not make RJ at 40M a good option.

I think the Spurs right now are a little more concerned with money than winning a le.

I also think that the Spurs could have done something different, like try to trade for a player making similar money to RJ's new contract (starting at 8M) that has more upside. It is hard to say whom, but there have been reports of guys like Iggy for example that would be available because of their contracts.

[DPG21920]

Malik is also quite foul prone too. Does his impact on the defensive end outweigh his inability to do anything on the offensive end at the NBA level? I don't think so.

He can get to the line pretty well and shoots at a decent clip in the D-League.

If Barnes had wanted to join the Spurs, he would have done so. He didn't. He went to the Lakers even though there were some war of twitter. Realistically, an agreement between the Spurs and the FA has to go both ways.

How would Barnes have joined? Spurs, with RJ pre arranged, were not likely offering. Not to mention, no RJ looks a lot more appealing in terms of playing time.

[Trill Clinton]

Seen only in GIF format, one could be made to believe that Mr. Jackson is watching something of the questionable, and maybe even illegal, variety.

A young one.



























HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

nooo, its from Thriller remember? He was watching the wolfman...michael james jackson would NEVER be involved with young boys.

[DPG21920]

It's a pretty unlikely assumption. The only reason RJ opted out was because he already knew he had a deal in place.

So why did the Spurs assume RJ would get so much? Or are you saying the Spurs so badly had to have RJ opt out to save money, that they were ready to offer an amount they knew full well would not even be closed to being matched via FA from another team?

Oh, so now you want to establish an alternate reality timeline.

Too late, TJastal already traded RJ for Tyrus Thomas and John Salmons last season.

You asked me whom they could have gotten. You asked me about the alternate reality.

[ElNono]

I didn't say Jefferson was worth the 40 million commitment, he clearly isn't in terms of basketball play. But the Spurs honored him with that contract as an agreement. The expiring in 2014 should help down the line.

So you also think the Spurs overpaid by offering such agreement before opting out.

The 2014 expiring will only help if he doesn't opt out first.

[Blackjack]

nooo, its from Thriller remember? He was watching the wolfman...michael james jackson would NEVER be involved with young boys.

Why does a young variety have to be about boys? It could have just as easily been a bunch of underage s fighting.

[Trill Clinton]

Why does a young variety have to be about boys? It could have just as easily been a bunch of underage s fighting.

[ElNono]

<<<---- currently eating:

[DPG21920]

I am done.................until tomorrow. Unless someone mentions RJ's name again tonight.

[oligarchy]

Rj

[Chieflion]

So you also think the Spurs overpaid by offering such agreement before opting out.

The 2014 expiring will only help if he doesn't opt out first.

He will be 33/34 years old by then, I hope he isn't that delusional. Cheers to hoping.



And to DPG




RICHARD JEFFERSON!

[ElNono]

He will be 33/34 years old by then, I hope he isn't that delusional. Cheers to hoping.

It's not him being delusional that I'm afraid of.

It's not like we never handed out 2 year deals with the second year being a player option to 35 year old veterans.

[Blackjack]

<<<---- currently eating:

Good stuff. Never thought to sneak it into a movie theater and eat it with my hands, but I'd be willing to try. You have some kind of heat shield in the jacket; and maybe webbed fingers?

[Chieflion]

It's not him being delusional that I'm afraid of.

It's not like we never handed out 2 year deals with the second year being a player option to 35 year old veterans.

We were contenders then. We won't be in 2014. Different scenario should bring forth different results.



One ring, appreciate.

[Chieflion]

Good stuff. Never thought to sneak it into a movie theater and eat it with my hands, but I'd be willing to try. You have some kind of heat shield in the jacket; and maybe webbed fingers?

Eat it uncooked.



No heat shield needed.

[ElNono]

Good stuff. Never thought to sneak it into a movie theater and eat it with my hands, but I'd be willing to try. You have some kind of heat shield in the jacket; and maybe webbed fingers?

[Blackjack]

Eat it uncooked.



No heat shield needed.

Guinness . . .

[anonoftheinternets]

By committee. .

you cant switch out a player for defense and offense. you also need consistency in a lineup. You cant say, i will play hariston (good defender off chance of becoming an NBA starter) for defense, and then replace his offense with someone else... it doesnt work that way.

And barnes, u know very well he has head case issues, and pop doesnt like him and barnes doesnt like us, there was a link here somewhere, where barnes did not pick the spurs as one of his destinations.

[ElNono]

We were contenders then. We won't be in 2014. Different scenario should bring forth different results.



One ring, appreciate.

Finley thread!

[Chieflion]

Finley thread!

Nah. It is now a Mamee Monster Noodle Snack thread +



Ya, that's right. I wonder if I soak the noodles in them, how would it taste? But hey, never had a sip of beer in my entire life.

[anonoftheinternets]

not to mention end of games u need familiarity u need someone atleast of jeffersons talent to play as a starter in this league. And if you have played basketball off the ball u know u need the ball consistenty to perform. last year with the injuries to tony parker they did not have enough time to mesh. And despite all teh problems, pop always looks for playing above themselves regardless of situation and jefferson did this in the PO. You know how bonner has NEVER played well in teh PO? despite all teh issues and all teh criticism , RJ balled for that pivotal game agains the mavs, he proved that he can play despite all the criticism.

You need players like that who step up, even if not always conistent. Like steve kerr breaking out with all the three pointers, like Stephen jackson burying all those threes against dallas. players who can rise above themselves for a game and swing a series without having anything special done for them. He proved he is atleast not a choker, and we need a starter for the next 2 years atleast and Rj is at the very least a proven starter in this league. And developing D leaguers can wait two years. we are not going to be a contenter once duncan declines cmiopletely anyway.

[Chieflion]

Are we derailing this thread?


Never mind, let us proceed.

[ElNono]

not to mention end of games u need familiarity u need someone atleast of jeffersons talent to play as a starter in this league. And if you have played basketball off the ball u know u need the ball consistenty to perform. last year with the injuries to tony parker they did not have enough time to mesh. And despite all teh problems, pop always looks for playing above themselves regardless of situation and jefferson did this in the PO. You know how bonner has NEVER played well in teh PO? despite all teh issues and all teh criticism , RJ balled for that pivotal game agains the mavs, he proved that he can play despite all the criticism.

You need players like that who step up, even if not always conistent. Like steve kerr breaking out with all the three pointers, like Stephen jackson burying all those threes against dallas. players who can rise above themselves for a game and swing a series without having anything special done for them. He proved he is atleast not a choker, and we need a starter for the next 2 years atleast and Rj is at the very least a proven starter in this league. And developing D leaguers can wait two years. we are not going to be a contenter once duncan declines cmiopletely anyway.

Are you talking about Richard Jefferson or Richardson, Jason?