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    Now that they have dropped a bunch of cash on bull , they will not spend anything else to stay out of the tax.
    I think this signals that they are willing to pay the tax again. The only want to make a starting salary for RJ anything more than 6.75 mil and avoid the tax is to fill out the roster with young mimimum contract types.

    I did some looking at it, and if the Spurs kept two of the 4 Toros and spent the rest of the MLE on another player that's all they could give RJ and stay under the tax line. However, if they kept the 4 Toros then they could give RJ a deal like this.

    What that would mean is that the FO thinks that Anderson and Splitter are enought to put the Spurs over the top...which, they probably aren't by themselves.

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    I have already explained why letting RJ walk does not make the Spurs significantly worse THIS YEAR. It is not giving up when you have a chance to be better off than the year before.

    Having RJ or not having RJ, I think the Spurs have close to the same shot. When you factor in TP bouncing back and Tiago, the Spurs did the same thing without the ty RJ contract.
    That's your opinion. Just because you have "Explained" why the spurs would be just as good with Hairston than RJ doesn't mean its true. I happen to disagree with you and think RJ is exceptionally better than Hairston and still even has greater potential for us than Hairston

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    None of us will never know how good we are or can be THIS year until the boys get back at it! Look at our 07 roster and you would have been hard press to place your mortgage on us winning the le with that cast of characters. In hindsight it easy to act as if we had it all figured out....

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    He opted out. He would've cost them nothing.
    Yeah, but this contract shows the only reason he opted out was because this deal was agreed to before hand.

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    sounds like a great reliable plan to start the season. " , we might be able to get cp3 around february if we're lucky"
    Their current plan is no different than ours. They're basically coming back with all their same guys, but with Chandler instead of Damp. If it's not enough to win it all, they have options to get better going forward. We don't have those options.

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    sounds like a great reliable plan to start the season. " , we might be able to get cp3 around february if we're lucky"
    Funny. They didn't have room to sign anyone outright, they only had trade chips. They couldn't find a deal that fit them right then, and then prolonged it to see if they could find a deal by the deadline.. nothing wrong with that

    It's about as funny as everyone presuming that RJ will be easy to move in his last year simply because he is expiring.

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    That's your opinion. Just because you have "Explained" why the spurs would be just as good with Hairston than RJ doesn't mean its true. I happen to disagree with you and think RJ is exceptionally better than Hairston and still even has greater potential for us than Hairston
    So you honestly thing they could not have replaced RJ's ty 3 PT shooting, bad defense and 12 PPG?

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    Their current plan is no different than ours. They're basically coming back with all their same guys, but with Chandler instead of Damp. If it's not enough to win it all, they have options to get better going forward. We don't have those options.
    trading parker is definitely an option.

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    $40 mil?!!!!


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    That's your opinion. Just because you have "Explained" why the spurs would be just as good with Hairston than RJ doesn't mean its true. I happen to disagree with you and think RJ is exceptionally better than Hairston and still even has greater potential for us than Hairston
    He's the 5th option on this team. I don't care how exceptional you think RJ is, our championship chances don't hinge on him at all.

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    James Anderson = no impact? He will be better overall than Roger in my opinion. You have to want to win and hate to lose to succeed in life or the NBA. This guy will impress if and when he comes back from his injury.....book it!

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    trading parker is definitely an option.
    So their plan was to trade Damp and ours Parker? I like their plan better.

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    Mysa.com has this AP article buried in there site

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

    Jul 21, 3:39 PM EDT

    Jefferson back with Spurs after opting out of deal

    By PAUL J. WEBER
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    SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- Richard Jefferson is returning to the San Antonio Spurs after opting out of his old contract that would have paid him $15 million next season.

    The Spurs announced Wednesday they have re-signed the veteran swingman. Terms were not disclosed, though Jefferson was willing to part with his bloated deal that expired next summer for longer-term security.

    Jefferson struggles with the Spurs after being traded from Milwaukee. The Spurs took on his hefty contract hoping the 30-year-old would bring a jolt to their championship core of Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.

    Jefferson's 12.3 scoring average was the lowest since his rookie year, though coach Gregg Popovich has stood by him.

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    Yeah, but this contract shows the only reason he opted out was because this deal was agreed to before hand.
    I'm not saying it did, I'm just saying you can't equate the savings. They didn't HAVE to resign him. "Hey let's make deal... on second thought, you." A reverse-boozer.

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    So you honestly thing they could not have replaced RJ's ty 3 PT shooting, bad defense and 12 PPG?
    I think RJ still has a lot more upside than what he showed last season. His defense improved as the season went on and by the time we were done it really wasn't bad. I think if both sides work on it his offense will definitely get better. RJ definitely has the potential to be much better ion this team than Hairston does this season. Yes, I do believe that.

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    He's the 5th option on this team. I don't care how exceptional you think RJ is, our championship chances don't hinge on him at all.
    5th option is RJ's ceiling . It could very easily go lower if Tiago or Anderson surprises.

    No question Tim, Hill, Manu & TP are ahead of RJ

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    Do Pop and RC think we won a championship last year?

    RJ and Bonner were our two worst playoff perfomers, yet they both got long extensions. I don't get it.
    Spurs can no longer laugh at the Hedo/Marion contracts. In fact, I'd probably prefer either player to RJ.

    Bonner being here for four more years is even more depressing because the two contracts(his and RJ's) practically guarantees we'll be a pretender for four more years instead of going ahead with the much needed rebuilding process.

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    trading parker is definitely an option.
    lol... so our plan is trade one of our 3 best players... well, that's some ty way to go about the season... at least Dallas dumped Damp...

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    So their plan was to trade Damp and ours Parker? I like their plan better.
    No. never said that. go back and read the posts before trying to put words in my mouth.

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    I'm not saying it did, I'm just saying you can't equate the savings. They didn't HAVE to resign him. "Hey let's make deal... on second thought, you." A reverse-boozer.
    I wish. Spurs don't roll like that. They have a hard enough time getting FA's as is.

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    I have already explained why letting RJ walk does not make the Spurs significantly worse THIS YEAR. It is not giving up when you have a chance to be better off than the year before.

    Having RJ or not having RJ, I think the Spurs have close to the same shot. When you factor in TP bouncing back and Tiago, the Spurs did the same thing without the ty RJ contract.
    This is the basis of contention for everyone who disagrees with you, Dude. It's the rock and proverbial hard place. You aren't going to budge just like you will never convince me that rollin' with a couple of barely capable, D-league backups is the same as what RJ brings to the table.

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    So you honestly thing they could not have replaced RJ's ty 3 PT shooting, bad defense and 12 PPG?
    who do you suggest the spurs could have gotten to help with those categories ?

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    You don't need to rebuild.. everyone will definitely want to trade RJ's expiring.... right?

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    lol... so our plan is trade one of our 3 best players... well, that's some ty way to go about the season... at least Dallas dumped Damp...
    When did I say that was our plan? You said dallas has options and we don't.... well thats definitely an option... isnt it?

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    And the only way we trade tony is if he's got a deal in place for an extension with other team. I'm not even sure we can even S&T him if he walks next summer (pending new CBA rules).

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