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Im sorry I respect u guys ManNu4Tres and yavozerb, but isn't the truth that RJ still sucks considering how much mone he gets paid? I find it difficult to underrstand how any intelligent person can disagree about this.
No...it wouldn't fit period. Blair is young with upside...and could be a better player than RJ by the end of the season. Of course he is going to get better his second year because it's only his second year in the league.
I would think this would be pretty obvious.
Im sorry I respect u guys ManNu4Tres and yavozerb, but isn't the truth that RJ still sucks considering how much mone he gets paid? I find it difficult to underrstand how any intelligent person can disagree about this.
RJ does not suck for not playing like a 40 million dollar-1st option one pre-season game.
I know it's already October 7th and I know how it can be to overreact. But the season is young.
I've never said RJ is a great player. I've never said RJ is the perfect fit.
What I have said is that RJ was the best option the Spurs could have realistically attained this past summer. (What I mean by realistically is looking at all the options and having an opinion on how realistically each option is; this was the most realistic/best option in my view. That was my opinion after considering all the "realistic" options.)
I also have said RJ's contract doesn't effect the Spurs from going out and signing a significant free agent the next 2 seasons anyway because the Spurs wouldn't have the significant cash (with or without RJ) to add a quality free agent due to Manu and Tim's contract on the books. And the length of RJ's contract (4 years) isn't that worrisome because of this factor.
I by no means think RJ is great. I just was and am aware of the realistic side of things in my opinion.
I expect RJ to be inconsistent on the offensive end (Limited touches will make this a reality). What I hope for is improvement in his consistency on the other end of the floor. Which is realistic to hope for.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 10-08-2010 at 01:12 PM.
Agreed. Just don't imagine he will become significantly better than last year.
Just imagine if Bobby Simmons and James Anderson were the Spurs only options right now at small forward.
Which is most likely the realistic scenario, had the Spurs let RJ walk. (If RJ was really testing FA waters; meaning no prearranged deal was in place.)
Spurs wouldn't have a shot if this was the case. Which would probably lead to a Parker trade in February.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 10-08-2010 at 01:23 PM.
Again I completely agree. They did the right thing. I just want my beloved Spurs to play better.
Guess I will miss Bowen at SF until I die. I donn't like the direction of the Spurs at all and we have no shot at winning a le until we get back to the old good tough D.
If you look around the league at players who earn 7-9 mil per season you will see some good players and equally see some horrible players making this kind of $. Thats because majority of these players were gambles at one time, some good, some not so good. The spurs were not going to sign anyone better at this position than RJ this past offseason and with the philosophy of "win now" still in place a calculated gamble had to be done. We are going to have to wait and see (and hope) that he will grow into his role this season and become SF who can produce in this system. All I was saying is that it was ridiculous to throw RJ under the bus after a preseason game.
Agree 100%....
Agreed...And I want to add to the bold part.
Not only did the Spurs stay with the "win now" philosophy by signing their best and most realistic option, but this prearranged deal saved Holt roughly 25 million dollars. That is huge in the eyes of management.
Again agreed 100%. I dont care about preseason games. He just basically sucks for the money he is paid. It's a fact.
God you guys are such crybaby little es.
So far as a Spur, considering last year and one preseason game this year?
Sucks isn't accurate.
Inconsistent, yes.
Which means some games bad, some games good. Which was good enough to help get passed the Mavs, aided by his good performances games 2 and 4. Was it good enough to get past the Suns? No it wasn't. But it's not his fault, he actually played really well games 2 and 4. The Spurs just didn't have a bench and Suns hit every shot they threw up in the 4th quarters. In my opinion, Spurs' main horses were just too gassed at the end of games (4th quarters) and it effected their defensive and offensive execution (having no bench being the culprit).
Hopefully this upcoming season Splitter, an improved Blair, Anderson and Temple can prevent this from happening again.
Agreed, sucks is too hard, inconsistent ok. I just don't understand how somone can get paid that much and do so little.
How about - not a great compe or, has bad instincts and shaky fundamentals...but is still a good athlete compared to the rest of the team, and he wants to do well but just doesn't know how to fit into this team?
RJ is the main reason we were able to sign Tiago. Gotta give him the credit. Him and CIA Pop of course.
RJ has already done his job for the 2010-2011 season.
that being said, he is hurting the team and Spurs should give up on him being a starter material
lol everytime i see this thread it reminds of me of what a bitter benefactor is.
Boy are you clicking on the wrong if you're expecting people on a sports team message board not to be complaining about the team.
We don't have a shot with this RJ... So let's hope it was just a glitch and he improves as the pre-season and season goes along...
I like the term "realist" better.
It sure as didn't hurt...What you cannot argue against is the spurs saved closed to 8 mil. this season on RJ's new contract. This is a FACT.
all he need is adjustment in the game
even if it doesn't turns out well
at least he tried...
Tmr go kick lebron's ass
It really all comes down to a difference in opinion. Some people(Manu4tres, ohmwrecker, yavozerb, etc.) think that RJ can improve and play better...and that this better play will keep the Spurs in contention. Other people(myself, ElNono, DPG, etc.) think that it was pointless to re-sign RJ because he does nothing to keep the Spurs in contention.
The ultimate proof will be in the pudding. I have never said that I wish bad for the Spurs. TBQH, I hope...by some miracle...that RJ becomes the type of role player that the Spurs need. I don't see that zebra changing it's stripes, no matter what year it is in the system. Hence the thread.
lol 4 years guaranteed for trying.all he need is adjustment in the game
even if it doesn't turns out well
at least he tried...
Tmr go kick lebron's ass
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