This seems the most likely.
If Anderson and Masterpiece Simmons were the only options . . . so what?
Another playoff performance from Jefferson like last year and like last night's meaningless exhibition guarantees the Spurs have no shot unless the improvements from Hill and Blair and the performance of Splitter make the SF spot's contributions moot.
i don't see why this thread needed to be bumped one pre-season game into the pre-season. it doesn't prove anything, other than the fact the OP couldn't wait ten more games--about the time when you can say with assurance that RJ won't improve-- to suck his own .
If you're ever find out you're capable of servicing yourself that way you won't last 10 games.
I speak from experience.
No doubt that what they saved this season won't hurt.
That doesn't mean that the investment on that contract long term was a good idea.
FWIW, I also do think bumping this thread was premature. We'll see how RJ does once the season starts and after a few games... there's really no more excuses then.
So by that logic, when you go to a 50 percent off sale and spend 1000 dollars you come back and tell people that you saved 1000 dollars.
If you want to look at that way you can...Some of you can disagree with this logic if you want but now that its been made public that the spurs are gonna run with 13 players simply for finanacial reasons should highlight the fact, no RJ discount = not as many summer signings (may or may not affected Tiago signing).
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We will not know long term if his contract was bad until we see how presently RJ will do in his second season. I was simply referring to your "myth" statement about the summer signing of Tiago.
Which you agreed is a myth.
The Tiago situation is not that complicated, I don't think. If the Spurs didn't sign him up this season, when he was eager to come over and he had an accessible buyout, he would have probably signed a bigger, longer contract with any team in Europe. His stock was never this high over there.
I don't think we see Tiago playing next to Duncan if that would have happened.
I still think RJ's contract is unrelated to that. I also think, long-term, RJ's contract is a bad investment, for a number of reasons.
Then again, I hope to be very wrong about this.
As bad as it sounds, Parkers fate on wheter he will stay in SA is heavily dependent on RJ's play. Let's face it, we are not going far unless RJ plays decent. And if by mid-season (Trade deadline) were not getting anywhere with RJ's play. Expect Parker and FO to mutually agree to call it quits.. it's been a good run while it lasted but it's time to look ahead post " Spurs without parker" . While Tony can look for a long term gig elsewhere.
It was all in good fun. I got the desired reaction from the usual suspects.
I'm simply not buying that rationale when the Spurs managed to blow 16 million dollars on Matt Bonner.
I think Bonner could have been brought back in theory...but at a much lower cost. Like veteran minimum or slightly above. The Spurs are historically cheap. I see no reason why not to be that way with Bonner considering his performance.
You do realize bonner is getting paid only 3 mil this season right? According to sham sports ( http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp ) Bonners contract is actually slightly over 13 mil with the last season being unguranteed. Sorry to dissappoint.
I really do believe Bonner could have gotten a similar contract from another team this offseason. There just are not many bigmen in this league that can shoot the 3pt shot at a 40% clip.
Especially in the playoffs...
...in the regular season.
Not to mention that he's a two trick pony (3 point shot during the regular season and +/- regular season champion).
But I digress, if some other team would have offered the same money, the Spurs should have just let him walk. We need help for Tim on the defensive end from the 4/5 position, not a gimmick, IMO.
I would have zero problems with Manu or Hill taking the 3's Matt takes.
The spurs did sign Tiago, right? Wouldn't this feel the need you are talking about. A big man who can shoot is much harder to find in the NBA, take a look at the contracts of Okur, brad miller, and frye. These guys get killed in the paint but make there money on consistent outside shooting. Bonner is probably a level below these guys, but not by much.
It would if he can perform at an NBA level. That's yet to be seen, and honestly, pretty unlikely for a rookie, IMO. But there's always hope.
When any of those three were an integral part of a contender?
They don't play defense, thus they're just as flawed as Matt. Once you put them against good bigs, they get exposed.
The Spurs were probably the last team that won with a big that could shoot (Horry). But Robert was a special player. Unfortunately, at some point we thought Matt could be him and it's obvious he's not.
And BTW, we're talking role players here. If you tell me guys like Dirk are coveted, I understand. But then we would be comparing apples to oranges.
I'll add this feels like Deja Vu...
I had pretty much the same conversation with Mel13 before last season started
Yet pessimist is the appropriate description.
look guys rj did average 12pts and like 5rbs thats not horrible by any means put the damn money argument aside. since rj avrg'd that last season with his summer remolding i dont see how he can get any worse theres just no way that happens!! every game he had tim yelling at him or looking like he was ready to knock rj's ass out because he was lost!
if rj is comfortable with his our system 100 percent by the time our season starts he can only make things better than last year! include a 7fter named tiago theres just no way were going to take a step back this year its just not possible sorry guys
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