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I leave it to the judges in the court of public opinion, SnC.
Mig. That's so ironic coming from u. watched ur fail so many times. Keep it up professor.
I leave it to the judges in the court of public opinion, SnC.
So lets phrase this another way.
Do you guys think that Mic e Obama is post-racial?
That is, that race has absolutely nothing to do with her opinions, what she chooses to do and how she views the world?
So lets phrase it a different way that completely changes the angle and ignores what you said in several posts?
There is a complete difference between assuming the main, foremost or only reason someone goes somewhere is due to religious and racial reasons (specifically black or African Muslims conquering White Europeans) or if they consider race in any of their views.
You're not just moving goalposts, you're changing the game.
So lets phrase this another way.
Do you guys think that Mic e Obama is exclusively racial?
That is, that race has absolutely everything to do with all her opinions, everything she chooses to do and every view she has of the world?
Why don't you guys just answer the question?
Yes or No.
It's really not that hard.
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Took a whole lotta tryin'
Just to get up that hill.
Now we're up in the big leagues,
Gettin' our turn at bat!
As long as we live,
It's you and me, baby!
There ain't nothin' wrong with that!
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To the east side!
To a dee-luxe apartment in the sky,
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Community Organizers got a BIG piece of the pie.
Of course race factors into her views. Race factors into almost everyone's views.
That is NOT what you said however. Its not even close. Saying that race factors into someone's views isn't the same as someone choose to go to this place because they want to commemorate African Muslims taking over Europe.
I don't think that is an either/or question in the case of the Alhambra visit. Sure, race may shape some of the choices she makes and the way she thinks -- but your contention that she could only choose to visit a place for racial reasons when millions of people of all races and religions visit the same place is categorically stupid. It says far more about how race influences your thinking than anyone else's.
So the answer to your question is "Cosmic Cowboy is definitely not post-racial."
No. I don't think M. Obama is post-racial. Nor do I think she should be. There are millions of Americans who would just assume see her sitting back up on the porch. Post-racialism can't combat the hatred of conservatism.
What is that even supposed to mean?
CC, you never said race factored in to her decision. You said race (and religion) WAS the reason she visited.
You may not understand the difference for whatever reason, but the difference in that implication is about as wide as the grand canyon.
Oh clearly every thought and act of FLOTUS is not race based. As hard as you try I don't think you will find anywhere that I made that claim.
However, this IS the woman that was ashamed of her country her whole life right up until it nominated her husband for POTUS.
It certainly seems like in her own words race is a huge factor in how she views her country and her world.
Why are you building yet another straw man, CC?
You said the only reason she went to Alhambra Palace was racial.
Just own that.
You proved that race is a huge factor in how you view the world.
And you misremebered the "ashamed of her country" bit -- but that's probably because of the way you view race.
No one said you made that claim. You made the claim that the only reason she visited Alhambra was because of its racial and religious significance or more specifically the conquering of Europeans by African Muslims and that she was there to honor that.
YOU said that. Its in this thread. No one put those words in your mouth and no one assumed thats what you insinuated because thats what you said.
Oh please.
If she's "not proud of" that only leaves two choices.
Ambivalent? Just didn't care one way or the other?
She was the politically active/aware wife of a US Senator. I think we can rule that one out.
You and I both know what she was saying.
Your views on race have led you to your conclusion here.
Cosmic Cowboy is not post-racial.
I suggest to you that if you're this ashamed of your bigoted comments then you should just stop being stubborn and accept why your view is so ed up and do your best to adapt. Otherwise just embrace this and stop trying to justify it as something other than what it is.
That was a fun show to watch. I used to watch it in the 70's when it came out.
About the community organizer. What does one do other than keep the stereotypes alive, in an organized manner, rather than actually improving it?
Do you know how Rorschach tests work? Perceptions on certain inkblots can tell a lot about how a person views and analyzes things.
Well, some might say that the way you perceive Mic e Obama's words and actions might say a lot about how you analyze and view certain people.
None of us know her. None of us can know what her true motives were.
We do know that in what writings/dissertations that are available from her college days that black vs. white was a principal and reoccurring subject.
If I choose to suspect that a primary reason she chose to vacation at Alhambra is because of it's significance in black world history that in and of itself is not racist.
Plus I really could give a what you guys think about me. The fact that I can't even mention or discuss the issue without the "thought police" screaming racist says more about you than me.
The Obongos are huge hypocrites. They rip the "fat cats" yet they act just like them.
You just said you did.
It proves that race influences your thought as much as or more than you claim it influences Obama. Cosmic Cowboy is not post-racial.We do know that in what writings/dissertations that are available from her college days that black vs. white was a principal and reoccurring subject.
If I choose to suspect that a primary reason she chose to vacation at Alhambra is because of it's significance in black world history that in and of itself is not racist.
Yes, you have spent many pages explaining just how much you don't care about what other people think about what you posted.Plus I really could give a what you guys think about me. The fact that I can't even mention or discuss the issue without the "thought police" screaming racist says more about you than me.
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