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Islamists are lovely, peaceful people. Unless you get caught watching world cup soccer or playing a musical instrument.
It's weird that they are against soccer, but enjoy themselves a good stoning.
Yeah, kids and guns are not a good mix.
I guess Islamists and real Americans are not a good mix either?
Islamists are lovely, peaceful people. Unless you get caught watching world cup soccer or playing a musical instrument.
It's weird that they are against soccer, but enjoy themselves a good stoning.
Once again, rule of law. If we zoned it so 1 certain gun shop couldn't build near schools and the rest could, then that would more closely resemble this arguement and I would say that it is wrong.
If NY or the US passes a law that says no places of worship near sites of former terrorist attacks then so be it. I would not agree but at least it is equal.
Hey, Thomas Jefferson had a copy of the Koran in his library and rewrote the Bible to exclude Christ's divinity.
Does that describe the vast majority of Muslims, or merely the sheer volume of your ignorance?
I know many Islamists that enjoy soccer. As a matter of fact, most of the countries with Islam as the primary religion compete in FIFA tournaments.
But don't let facts get in the way of your bigotry...
even at a stretch i can't see how this has anything to do with the discussion.
Are you really meaning to use the term "Islamists"?
Just an observation about one of the individuals who helped to create the place.
Just seems odd, I could see it if someone said "You know the founding fathers hated Muslims too. They advocated the destruction of all Muslim items."
OK, then the founders weren't the Southern Baptists they're made out to be today. It is clear that while, yes, a good number were Christians, that the framework for governance they created was to create a society in which a wide variety of religious belief could be held and practiced (as well as none at all). To Darrin's notion that this country wasn't founded on that ideal, but is rather being pushed to embrace it by "liberals" is a point worth addressing.
I'm sorry. I use Muslims and Islamist interchangeably. Are they not?
Im not sure about NY city regs. Will the mosque be allowed to have their prayers through a speaker system? I think that if they want to pay for it and the owners want to lease/sell it to them, what does it matter?
I do think it is a valid point that if enemies (not saying this imam who may have sent money to a terrorist org is an enemie) try to use our freedoms to create propaganda, what would we do? What could we do? Should we so to speak sell the rope that hangs ourselves? If someone has a muslim church which has, in the past, funded an enemy of the state be able to do this? Not saying he has. Really I haven't paid any attention to this story.
Is there any real writing to make this truthful?
Feisal Abdul Rauf, you know the guy who wants to build the mosque where muslim terroist killed 3,000 innocent americans says the United States was "an accessory to the crime" in the 9/11 attacks and is sympathetic to terrorist groups like Hamas. The mosque is being built 2 blocks from ground zero to honor the muslims terrorist. Book it.
[email protected] bringing people together. You people defending this guy are straight up dumbasses and/or could careless about america and those who were killed there.
Just a quick clarification, they already own the land and have for years. They have been using the current building for prayer service for years too.
You're a thick headed dumb , in no way was i defending bush. I just wont give credit to clinton for a false boom.
Please comeback with the correct argument, i'm not advocating banning them from building mosques near ground zero.
Also, please reread the cons ution, the cons ution allows us to worship freely, it does not force us to be tolerant.
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Nice strawman.
Odd. Doesn't the very concept of free worship imply tolerance?
No.
If the context of tolerance is to not condemn any practice as a private citizen.
The cons ution does not legislate thought crimes.
I know I won't get through to you of all people, and I won't get an intelligent, well thought out take out of you. However . . .
Did he commit a crime? Was he convicted of that crime? I don't care if the pool at this new community center is "members only" (muslim only) or if it is supposed to be open to all in the spirit of togetherness. The point is that the land is already owned by this group, and should be able to build this on THEIR land as long as it doesn't break any laws.
You wouldn't say that anyone associated with the petrochemical industry should be banned from going anywhere within "a couple of blocks" of the beach would you?
so , they're free to practice their religion.......in the dark basements of their homes.
Good quote. I like this. So what the imam said about the US having a role in the 911 attacks doesn't really matter either. (unless he commits a crime)
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