LOL: Manu traveled big time

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Damn, there's more articles and discussion out there on the interwebs about this non-travel call than coverage of the Spurs' previous win streak and best start in franchise history combined

[Man In Black]

I love the attention. of a shot. Spurs Win. Let's hope they get 22.

[Barfunk]

Damn, there's more articles and discussion out there on the interwebs about this non-travel call than coverage of the Spurs' previous win streak and best start in franchise history combined

lol the entire basketball world creating articles and crying travel on a very vague if at all traveling call

lol nitpicking the Spurs and Manuel Chernobly

lol turning the cheek when the Lebrons and Crobys of the world travel

lol playing dumb and turning the other way on a Derek Fisherman nano-second shot

lol turning the cheek on a Brent Barry no call to cost spurs a finals trip

[Vito Corleone]

If the refs were going to call anything they probably would have called the contact that forced him to travel. And yes it was a travel, but no way the refs were going to call it when they swallowed their whistles for the contact like they did.

[Cessation]

That was a nice shot.

[TJastal]

If the refs were going to call anything they probably would have called the contact that forced him to travel. And yes it was a travel, but no way the refs were going to call it when they swallowed their whistles for the contact like they did.

Thanks for being #5 Vito

[Agloco]

Now taking side bets on how many more bags will still come into this thread and argue it was a travel.

Over/under is 5. I'll take over.

Heh....it was only a matter of time.

[ace3g]

well apparently the panel on ESPN Around the Horn thought it was a travel as well, lol

[TJastal]

well apparently the panel on ESPN Around the Horn thought it was a travel as well, lol

Good chance that'll bring a whole new wave of morons into this thread

[phxspurfan]

well apparently the panel on ESPN Around the Horn thought it was a travel as well, lol

Well if Skip Bayless says it's a travel then it's a freaking travel.

[polandprzem]

[Agloco]

Yeah, this video should end all of the debate, it's the best one I've seen out there. Clearly not a travel.

I think the problem most people are having is that the jump step is going backwards instead of sideways or forwards like we are accustomed to seeing. Manu's so unorthodox that he makes it look questionable when it really isn't at all.

[NASpurs]

For people who say he traveled and don't read the whole thread. Refute this:

Manu didn't travel



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http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010...manu-ginobili/

In today’s Have Ball, Will Travel, we’ll take a closer look at a pretty controversial play: Manu Ginobili’s game-winning jumper from Wednesday night’s game between the San Antonio Spurs and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Strange things are afoot at the AT&T Center. Ginobili has always had a certain awkwardness to his game, and his unorthodox style is part of what makes him such a difficult cover. It also has led to more than a few missed calls and false traveling positives; Ginobili’s bizarre rhythm makes him a referee’s worst nightmare.
Understandably, this particular play led to widespread declarations across the Twitterverse that Ginobili had duped the officiating crew, committed what many considered to be an obvious traveling violation, and stolen a win in the process. Among them was Brett Pollakoff of NBA FanHouse:




At first glance, I agreed with Brett. Ginobili seems to take two steps before going into his jump stop, which would certainly cons ute a travel. However, a closer look at the clip reveals that Manu’s play was actually a completely legal maneuver.


The errors in judgment primarily seem to stem from a plant of Ginobili’s right foot just prior to his step-back and jump stop. While viewing the play from the original broadcast angle at full speed, it indeed appears that Ginobili picks up his dribble before planting that right foot. But if we view the play from another angle, it’s clear that when Manu plants his right foot in what many are counting as his “first” step, the ball isn’t even in his hand. This step isn’t a step at all, at least not for the purposes of any kind of violation. Instead, Ginobili’s step count triggers as soon as he’s gathered and gained control of the ball, which occurs after the right foot has already been planted.


According to the NBA Rulebook, “The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.” Thus, Ginobili’s step-back (with his left foot, prior to the jump stop) is his actual first step. The rulebook also states that “a progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.” Ginobili does just that, and gives us a fine example of a perfectly legal jump stop. He jumps immediately afterward to fire up the game-winner, which means for those counting at home, the entire sequence consisted of a rulebook-en led two steps.

[Spurs Brazil]

I don't know if it was a travel but the shot was GREAT

[21_Blessings]

He was actually pushed.

Like Fisher was in the 2008 WCF.

[Mavs<Spurs]

For people who say he traveled and don't read the whole thread. Refute this:

I notice that none of the posters who posted after TJastal and GSH have even attempted to answer the analysis with the rules.

It was not a travel. Their posts should have ended the phantom travel callers. Yet, somehow it didn't. Then again, there are those who still think that the Sun revolves around the Earth.


to GSH, TJastal, Solid D, and the other posters who attempted (and did) inject some level of intelligence, reason, logic, and fact into this fail of a thread.

You all presented the facts in a convincing, compelling manner which leaves no reasonable doubt for reasonable people. You can't be responsible for those who don't fall into that last category. I am especially referring to those who posted after the rule and analysis quotation posts.

[gospursgojas]

It looked like it was jumpstep, but instead of moving forward, he moved backwards.

[WalterBenitez]

Manu flyes

[DMC]

Like Fisher was in the 2008 WCF.

No, he said that he was pushed, not that he was a pussy.

[ducks]

10 pages

must be alot of manu haters huh

[DMC]

thing is, I was gloating by saying skeet skeet and you called me a bag. once or twice of you talking is cool, but if youre trying to pick on me, i dont play that . dont be a hypocrite, just play it cool. later average poster.

Sorry dude, not to call you out, but if that's your mug in your avatar, you look like something Clay Aiken would dream about, like someone who would hold a in his mouth until it got limp, refusing to suck it because that might mean you are a got.

[DespЏrado]

For people who say he traveled and don't read the whole thread. Refute this:

Read my posts in this thread, I incontrovertibly proved that it was a travel...He traveled because he pivoted on his left foot....Not because of how many steps he took...(page 5 btw)

[TJastal]

Read my posts in this thread, I incontrovertibly proved that it was a travel...He traveled because he pivoted on his left foot....Not because of how many steps he took...(page 5 btw)

I just went back and re-watched the sequence 5X, and I don't see this mysterious "pivot". He landed on both feet, but you say he pivoted only his left? He'd be a of a contortionist if he can do that.

[DespЏrado]

I just went back and re-watched the sequence 5X, and I don't see this mysterious "pivot". He landed on both feet, but you say he pivoted only his left? He'd be a of a contortionist if he can do that.

The pivot is on the jump before he lands...

[TJastal]

The pivot is on the jump before he lands...

So he pivoted in mid-air??