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He just took a hop then did a fadeaway into his shot...I took the 2nd angle to see there was not travel.
I'm practising sarcasim. Unwantedtheory told I was poor.
He just took a hop then did a fadeaway into his shot...I took the 2nd angle to see there was not travel.
Closer to a foul on Mbah a Moute than a travel on Manu. If he had chosen to sell the contact instead of gathering himself for the shot, methinks he would've gotten that call.
You just said Ginobili should have gotten called for a push-off. Which is it?
I think he's referring to selling the contact--it's not necessarily either/or.
Thank you ! I had no idea this post was going to cause so much reaction but I share your sentiments. I'm not mad, I'm thrilled. Maybe it was home cooking, I don't care. Fact is, Manu is a badass and he would have probably finished them off in OT. We won and now I'd like to see us get # 22 on the road against the Nuggs. To play as sloppily as we did and still pull out a win is fantastic. We seemed to lose these types of games last year.
I'm not that smart so I might have missed something here, but I can't seem to find the part where he talks about selling the foul. Please point it out for a re like me, and thanks.
well at first I had said that I thought Manu should have drawn the foul, but then after watching it like 5 times again and again, I thought to myself that the D was pretty clean.
I just said word because that thought had crossed my mind too, at first.
yup.
My bad, wasn't being clear--I was saying I think he was simply agreeing with my assertion that Manu would've gotten the call if he sold the contact (which doesn't necessarily imply that Manu didn't push off).
Basically, I put words in his mouthMy apologies, wunderkindepiphany.
Ahh, the EricB seal of approval. You're saved.
Then when I said that I thought, if anything, Manu should have gotten called for a foul, I was talking about him using his off-hand to create space. Truth is, the whole play was just fine, Manu used his arm to clear off a bit, because he was being played close (thats creating space) and yes, if he (Manu) wanted, he could have drawn a foul (as he has, so many other times) but he played through the tight D and hit a LEGIT jumper. got damn
Go back to sniffing your dog's ass. Your comments are worthless, head. The fact that you're labeled a reformed Pop hater says it all.
and for those of you that are wondering how to use the extra dribble in the step back, let D-Will show you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNhaFuXl3CA
It's alot of hard work remembering what you said 5 minutes ago, I know I suffer dementia sometimes too.
I changed the text on my message from "drawing" to "getting called for" the foul. I explained how, at first, I thought Ginobili should have DRAWN the foul (aka two free-throws) but then, after watching the highlight a few times, I thought the defense was clean. Upon watching the video ad-nauseum, I noticed that Manu's push off might have gotten him called for a foul in, say, an away game. Really, Manu was just using that hand to create space for his jump-back shot, but I was just remarking on that, just because. I said "word" because the sentiments about the foul were the same ones that had crossed my mind earlier.
TJ, youre a tough dude to have a conversation with.
1 Hard Step (Plant)
2 Steps for last jump
Manu takes a hard right step, a hard left step and then jumps to his left (Landing ) for two additional steps = 4.
face, meet palm. OK man, you have your opinion, I have mine. Luckily, the refs seemed to share mine and now were at 21-3.
oh, and. . .
You're not a re , you just act like one.
It was a travel - but so are 90% of the jump stops in the NBA by definition of the rule (the vast majority of which go uncalled).
If he had made that move going forward, nobody would have beefed with it - it just looked really awkward because he made a jump stop laterally.
Manu most definitely travelled on that call. He picked up his dribble, stopped with both feet, then jumped backwards, landed, then jumped and launched the shot. It's almost like the famous Ewing step that Ewing used to do on layups/dunks, only Manu stepped backwards and launched a jumpshot.
And the argument that refs didn't call it so it didn't happen. I am looking forward to that the next time the Spurs got a bad call against them.
I totally understand differing opinions. Agreed. Some posters around here can't react without name calling so I just give back when appropriate. This place can be a friggin zoo. I feed the animals when they deserve it.
P.S. I wouldn't have it any other way. Spurstalk is the best.
I'm cool with a little talking. Bt dubs, nice avatar.
After seeing it in slo-mo, it was a travel. But meh. Those are the calls you get when you're 21-3.
I am fairly certain that first pic, the image is not a basketball, but the dangling, peeking helmet of Manu's Argentinian Soldier of Love. Or it could be the UFO he saw...Regardless of what you think happened, Skiles is still a wuss for saying this:"It was great D. (Mbah a Moute) made him travel. We just looked at it about five times [on video]," Skiles said. He actually went to video before the press conference? Serious wuss.
BTW - I didn't have these shots last night. They show what happened a split second before the others. There's the ball on the ground. Then there's Manu about to gather the ball. Those extra steps some people insist he took after his last dribble? Not on video. Phantom steps.
RuffnReadyOzStyle nailed it. Manu put down another sneaky dribble. People couldn't see it because of the camera angle. But you can see the ball in the first photo, peeking out from behind Manu's leg. Those are the steps you guys are talking about, and the ball is on the floor. I wonder if any of you are going to step up and say, "Damn... I didn't know he put the ball on the ground one more time"?
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