LOL: Manu traveled big time

[Leftyventricle]

it's clear from this video. Ginobili took the proper amount of steps.

[DMC]

Also, how about that foot drag by, I think, Douglas-Roberts on that flop in the corner that netted him three freethrows? It was a travel, wasn't a foul, and cost the Spurs 3 points. Any point in the game that a call goes the other way affects the game, so let's even it out.

[EricD]

I am fairly certain that first pic, the image is not a basketball, but the dangling, peeking helmet of Manu's Argentinian Soldier of Love. Or it could be the UFO he saw...

So hilarious.


Move out of the way Will Ferrell, DMC is here and here to stay.

[DMC]

So hilarious.


Move out of the way Will Ferrell, DMC is here and here to stay.

Did you get that fruitcake your parents sent? No, not food, your sister is coming to visit.

[EricD]

Did you get that fruitcake your parents sent? No, not food, your sister is coming to visit.

Just as I thought.

Another post that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. ( so shocking)

You're the epitome of a Spurstalk Loser posting from his mother's basement.

You will never be black and bold.

Get a clue.

[TJastal]

Manu most definitely travelled on that call. He picked up his dribble, stopped with both feet, then jumped backwards, landed, then jumped and launched the shot. It's almost like the famous Ewing step that Ewing used to do on layups/dunks, only Manu stepped backwards and launched a jumpshot.

And the argument that refs didn't call it so it didn't happen. I am looking forward to that the next time the Spurs got a bad call against them.

This is not that tough to figure out.

He sets down a dribble, stops with both feet and as the dribble is coming back to his hand, he is forearm checked at the same time by Mbah Moute while gathering the ball in. So at that point he has ZERO steps ac ulated according to the actual RULESET as quoted by GSH. At that point he has the ball gathered in and (with the help of the shove) takes a huge sidestep which is perfectly legal to do, plants, and shoots a jumper off BOTH feet. It's all perfectly legit you assclowns. Geebus.

[DMC]

Just as I thought.

Another post that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. ( so shocking)

You're the epitome of a Spurstalk Loser posting from his mother's basement.

You will never be black and bold.

Get a clue.

Actually not everyone here is still living with mom and dad like you. Not everyone uses their parents approval as an indicator of future success.

I am sitting at a Fourbucks sipping coffee and getting paid for it. I am not soaking up my parent's life savings pretending to be a writer for ESPN. In fact, I am sure I have kids older than you. What were you, 9 years old when the Spurs won their first le? You don't remember Spurs before the Alamodome. I am sure you can read about it though and pretend you know, then write about how great it was back then.

Give it a rest kid. I spent more time in the USAF than you've spent on this planet.

[Nathan Explosion]

Skiles said his player bumped Gino. The bump caused the travel. Either you call the foul or no call the entire thing. If you try and call traveling, you have to call the bump that caused the travel, right?

Either way it would have resulted in points for the Spurs win.

[NRHector]

I am fairly certain that first pic, the image is not a basketball, but the dangling, peeking helmet of Manu's Argentinian Soldier of Love. Or it could be the UFO he saw...

I guess the only person that saw the dribble was the ref standing right in front of the play and if he didn't call traveling then it was a legal move but haters are going to hate

[Killakobe81]

so there was a nice clip with extra slow motion replay .. and it is a travel, but you have to look at it in extra slow motion to see that the feet touch the ground one after another (the intial step) with the ball being driblled in just before the two steps ..

its a fraction of a second since one step is allowed but because its just before the two steps and then the jump itself, this leads to three steps, but you have to see it in ultra slow motion, referrees on the floor cannot call it so easily.

Compared to the obvious travels which can be called, this one easily gets a pass.

The OP and anon are both correct. Yes it was a travel. But I was not 100% sure in real time either (though i said tavel!!)
It looked awkward ...but as many said on such a close play why call it? Either way ...Manu made an amazing shot over a tough defender. in slow mo I see what the OP sees ...even with the last dribble, he slides his plant foot than gathers ...but props to him and the spurs.

BTW spurs win in OT regardless ...

[DMC]

The game decider was the defensive stop, not the points. Overtime would not favor the Bucks.

[TJastal]

The OP and anon are both correct. Yes it was a travel. But I was not 100% sure in real time either (though i said tavel!!)
It looked awkward ...but as many said on such a close play why call it? Either way ...Manu made an amazing shot over a tough defender. in slow mo I see what the OP sees ...even with the last dribble, he slides his plant foot than gathers ...but props to him and the spurs.

BTW spurs win in OT regardless ...

And the ruleset states that while a player is gathering the ball (ie ball coming back up from hitting the floor, etc), none of the steps matter. So by your own admissions it is most defenitely NOT a travel. OWNED by yourself.

[NASpurs]

Manu didn't travel



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http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010...manu-ginobili/

In today’s Have Ball, Will Travel, we’ll take a closer look at a pretty controversial play: Manu Ginobili’s game-winning jumper from Wednesday night’s game between the San Antonio Spurs and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Strange things are afoot at the AT&T Center. Ginobili has always had a certain awkwardness to his game, and his unorthodox style is part of what makes him such a difficult cover. It also has led to more than a few missed calls and false traveling positives; Ginobili’s bizarre rhythm makes him a referee’s worst nightmare.
Understandably, this particular play led to widespread declarations across the Twitterverse that Ginobili had duped the officiating crew, committed what many considered to be an obvious traveling violation, and stolen a win in the process. Among them was Brett Pollakoff of NBA FanHouse:

As Ginobili drove left — which he always does, you know, considering the fact he’s left-handed — he planted both feet, then lifted both feet to step back to take the game-winning jumper, and landed before elevating to do so. There’s no way that isn’t a travel.

At first glance, I agreed with Brett. Ginobili seems to take two steps before going into his jump stop, which would certainly cons ute a travel. However, a closer look at the clip reveals that Manu’s play was actually a completely legal maneuver.


The errors in judgment primarily seem to stem from a plant of Ginobili’s right foot just prior to his step-back and jump stop. While viewing the play from the original broadcast angle at full speed, it indeed appears that Ginobili picks up his dribble before planting that right foot. But if we view the play from another angle, it’s clear that when Manu plants his right foot in what many are counting as his “first” step, the ball isn’t even in his hand. This step isn’t a step at all, at least not for the purposes of any kind of violation. Instead, Ginobili’s step count triggers as soon as he’s gathered and gained control of the ball, which occurs after the right foot has already been planted.


According to the NBA Rulebook, “The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.” Thus, Ginobili’s step-back (with his left foot, prior to the jump stop) is his actual first step. The rulebook also states that “a progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.” Ginobili does just that, and gives us a fine example of a perfectly legal jump stop. He jumps immediately afterward to fire up the game-winner, which means for those counting at home, the entire sequence consisted of a rulebook-en led two steps.

[Blake]

Manu didn't travel



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http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010...manu-ginobili/

In today’s Have Ball, Will Travel, we’ll take a closer look at a pretty controversial play: Manu Ginobili’s game-winning jumper from Wednesday night’s game between the San Antonio Spurs and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Strange things are afoot at the AT&T Center. Ginobili has always had a certain awkwardness to his game, and his unorthodox style is part of what makes him such a difficult cover. It also has led to more than a few missed calls and false traveling positives; Ginobili’s bizarre rhythm makes him a referee’s worst nightmare.
Understandably, this particular play led to widespread declarations across the Twitterverse that Ginobili had duped the officiating crew, committed what many considered to be an obvious traveling violation, and stolen a win in the process. Among them was Brett Pollakoff of NBA FanHouse:




At first glance, I agreed with Brett. Ginobili seems to take two steps before going into his jump stop, which would certainly cons ute a travel. However, a closer look at the clip reveals that Manu’s play was actually a completely legal maneuver.


The errors in judgment primarily seem to stem from a plant of Ginobili’s right foot just prior to his step-back and jump stop. While viewing the play from the original broadcast angle at full speed, it indeed appears that Ginobili picks up his dribble before planting that right foot. But if we view the play from another angle, it’s clear that when Manu plants his right foot in what many are counting as his “first” step, the ball isn’t even in his hand. This step isn’t a step at all, at least not for the purposes of any kind of violation. Instead, Ginobili’s step count triggers as soon as he’s gathered and gained control of the ball, which occurs after the right foot has already been planted.


According to the NBA Rulebook, “The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.” Thus, Ginobili’s step-back (with his left foot, prior to the jump stop) is his actual first step. The rulebook also states that “a progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.” Ginobili does just that, and gives us a fine example of a perfectly legal jump stop. He jumps immediately afterward to fire up the game-winner, which means for those counting at home, the entire sequence consisted of a rulebook-en led two steps.

good post

[TJastal]

Manu didn't travel



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http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010...manu-ginobili/

In today’s Have Ball, Will Travel, we’ll take a closer look at a pretty controversial play: Manu Ginobili’s game-winning jumper from Wednesday night’s game between the San Antonio Spurs and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Strange things are afoot at the AT&T Center. Ginobili has always had a certain awkwardness to his game, and his unorthodox style is part of what makes him such a difficult cover. It also has led to more than a few missed calls and false traveling positives; Ginobili’s bizarre rhythm makes him a referee’s worst nightmare.
Understandably, this particular play led to widespread declarations across the Twitterverse that Ginobili had duped the officiating crew, committed what many considered to be an obvious traveling violation, and stolen a win in the process. Among them was Brett Pollakoff of NBA FanHouse:




At first glance, I agreed with Brett. Ginobili seems to take two steps before going into his jump stop, which would certainly cons ute a travel. However, a closer look at the clip reveals that Manu’s play was actually a completely legal maneuver.


The errors in judgment primarily seem to stem from a plant of Ginobili’s right foot just prior to his step-back and jump stop. While viewing the play from the original broadcast angle at full speed, it indeed appears that Ginobili picks up his dribble before planting that right foot. But if we view the play from another angle, it’s clear that when Manu plants his right foot in what many are counting as his “first” step, the ball isn’t even in his hand. This step isn’t a step at all, at least not for the purposes of any kind of violation. Instead, Ginobili’s step count triggers as soon as he’s gathered and gained control of the ball, which occurs after the right foot has already been planted.


According to the NBA Rulebook, “The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.” Thus, Ginobili’s step-back (with his left foot, prior to the jump stop) is his actual first step. The rulebook also states that “a progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.” Ginobili does just that, and gives us a fine example of a perfectly legal jump stop. He jumps immediately afterward to fire up the game-winner, which means for those counting at home, the entire sequence consisted of a rulebook-en led two steps.

Pure ownage to all the bags in this thread. Thanks for posting this.

[TJastal]

Now taking side bets on how many more bags will still come into this thread and argue it was a travel.

Over/under is 5. I'll take over.

[Rick Von Braun]

Manu didn't travel



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http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010...manu-ginobili/

In today’s Have Ball, Will Travel, we’ll take a closer look at a pretty controversial play: Manu Ginobili’s game-winning jumper from Wednesday night’s game between the San Antonio Spurs and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Strange things are afoot at the AT&T Center. Ginobili has always had a certain awkwardness to his game, and his unorthodox style is part of what makes him such a difficult cover. It also has led to more than a few missed calls and false traveling positives; Ginobili’s bizarre rhythm makes him a referee’s worst nightmare.
Understandably, this particular play led to widespread declarations across the Twitterverse that Ginobili had duped the officiating crew, committed what many considered to be an obvious traveling violation, and stolen a win in the process. Among them was Brett Pollakoff of NBA FanHouse:




At first glance, I agreed with Brett. Ginobili seems to take two steps before going into his jump stop, which would certainly cons ute a travel. However, a closer look at the clip reveals that Manu’s play was actually a completely legal maneuver.


The errors in judgment primarily seem to stem from a plant of Ginobili’s right foot just prior to his step-back and jump stop. While viewing the play from the original broadcast angle at full speed, it indeed appears that Ginobili picks up his dribble before planting that right foot. But if we view the play from another angle, it’s clear that when Manu plants his right foot in what many are counting as his “first” step, the ball isn’t even in his hand. This step isn’t a step at all, at least not for the purposes of any kind of violation. Instead, Ginobili’s step count triggers as soon as he’s gathered and gained control of the ball, which occurs after the right foot has already been planted.


According to the NBA Rulebook, “The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.” Thus, Ginobili’s step-back (with his left foot, prior to the jump stop) is his actual first step. The rulebook also states that “a progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.” Ginobili does just that, and gives us a fine example of a perfectly legal jump stop. He jumps immediately afterward to fire up the game-winner, which means for those counting at home, the entire sequence consisted of a rulebook-en led two steps.

/thread

[anonoftheinternets]

intresting i thought the steps count from when the ball touches hte floor and not when the player gathers the ball ... so it is indeed not a travell. props to the video poster.

[wunderkindepiphany]

skeet skeet

[TJastal]

skeet skeet

I think I'll count you as douchbag #1. Just because. 4 more to go..

[wunderkindepiphany]

dude i dont give a damn what you do. nobody does.

[TJastal]

dude i dont give a damn what you do. nobody does.

I know you want to be counted twice, but my conscious just won't allow it.

[wunderkindepiphany]

I know you want to be counted twice, but my conscious just won't allow it.

no you just want to up your post count. you act like its your first time on a forum, man, just relax.

[Horse]

They owe him a lifetime of calls after the phantom and 1 against dirk in 06 that cost us a championship, repeat and maybe 3-peat.

[lazerelmo]

dude traveled. just 3 more to go.

yw