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Wheather you like it or not i think "international" player is refered to foreign players that played in foreign leagues. Olajwan is never called an international player nor is team.
I'll tell you a story that goes like this: in 1999, a skinny kid coming from a minor italian team, goes to one of the best franchises in Europe, Virtus Bologna, fighting for a roster spot. No question to start, as Virtus has a legend of basketball, Predrag Danilovic, at that position and another great veteran, Sconochini, as backup.
Danilovic was more than God in Bologna, contract to life and everything.
He comes back from the Olympics and starts practicing with Virtus.
Then he calls a press conference and, much to everybody's astonishment, simply quits basketball.
The proud, ferociously compe ive Sasha, the ultimate Serbian warrior, just goes.
The reasons? not so clear. Not at all.
He never really explained WHY he would hang the sneakers up, all of a sudden.
The legend goes, as I later was told, the rumors, put it how you like it, that it didn't take him more than a couple of practices to realize that his Heir was there already, the new, inevitable alpha-dog, and he could not allow himself to play the "servant" to this phenomenal Argentinian kid.
That's who Emanuel Ginobili is: the one that put to rest the fiercest of the compe ors, without playing a single game.
Wheather you like it or not i think "international" player is refered to foreign players that played in foreign leagues. Olajwan is never called an international player nor is team.
I've been told many times by Bruno Scola sucks . . .
I've been told many times by Bruno Scola sucks . . .
..are you kidding me? You can't prize ARG national team, despite the "great players" it has. In 2002 all of them were nobodies and GER hadfar more history than Arg. Now all of the sudden the ARG supporting cast are gods role players?
I don't believe it. They're good, smart and talented players than know their role with a main player (still humble, who knows his role too. When to pass, when to shoot) that's all.
You can't overrate ARG national team all of the sudden. That team built his status from ground zero, just effort but in overall history they're not at all better than Germany or any other European team.
You're just making excuses
Right back at you.
Argentinian players >>> German players
You can talk all you want about some ground zero or whatever but that is an irrefutable fact.
It just depends. If it's based on more of their NBA careers than there's no question that Dirk is the better international player but if based on what they've done internationally then I would probably say Manu. He seems to step up his game and play better when he plays for his international team.
yeah why does manu play better for his country and not spurs
who pay him millions
Tiago plays better for his country too. It's amazing how well guys play when their opponents have day jobs.
splitter is a rookie in the nba
The best skilled for me was Drazen, the most winner Manu, I wouldn't even consider TD as international, he is US' citizen.
Dirk is fantastic, also Sabonis and many other good players such as Nash, etc...
Bodiroga is the one I'd love to had watched play in NBA, but he didn't come.
Yet you consider someone who was born in America, grew up in America, went to High School in America, and went to college in America to be European. Why are you making up fake criteria?
really? who are these "good" players?
Spot on.
Galis was as greek as Becky Hammon is russian.
Dirk has won nothing in the NBA despite playing alongside great players. In that respect, he is a bit of a loser . . .
I suppose that's true. But he did lead his team to the finals and Mavs have been a successful franchise outside of not winning a championship and that 1st round debacle.
"Finals are not played.
They are won."
Samuel Eto'h
Classic KBP post right there!!!!
Actually, you did....
You said Galis was not American. So you said quite a bit about Galis' nationality.
You may have changed your username, but you still suck hard at this.
Feel free to try again, Billy.
Classic KBP self-ownage right there!
I thought you were going to ignore me. You even suck at ignoring people.
the only point of categorizing players as "international" is to recognize that Basketball is a sport dominated by the USA- what national team or league they play for is besides the point IMO. is an american that plays in europe an "international player"? No. For this reason, I think that players like hakeem, duncan, nash, galis who were formed as players in the US shouldn't be considered international, while players that learned the game abroad (with FIBA rules) should.
I'd actually PAY to be able to dissect a Galis Interview in Greek.
Classic KBP self-ownage right there!
I thought you were going to ignore me. You even suck at ignoring people.
I'd bet it would one of the classic americans of italian origins pretending to speak Italian a-la D'antoni, going like
Wella, we have donne a bisinisse toghedde, we have giocatto multo benni.
Greek my ass was Galis.
It's been a while since I haven't obeyed to orders.
I give orders.
You are confusing individual play with team play. Their teammates come into play when saying one is a winner and another is a loser. Swap Manu for Dirk and the spurs are not winning any less and likely much more.
Having Dirk instead of Manu the last 3 years the spurs would have a better shot in the playoffs since Manu has come up lame the last 3 years.
Ranking players based on their collective achievement is lame
As a player, Dirk >>> Manu
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