Barkley: Ginobili is the best international player of all time

[lefty]

Ranking players based on their collective achievement is lame

I agree

Parker sucks

[romain.star]

I agree

Parker sucks

and Manu >> Parker

[ploto]

So actually, Dirk has never won anything in his career.

Dirk has been named all-NBA 10 times: 4 times 1st team; 4 times 2nd team, and 2 times 3rd team. Manu has one 3rd team all-NBA.

[ploto]

Please explain how that is a team award.

We are not talking about who has the best team.

[Mel_13]

Mel_13 This message is hidden because Mel_13 is on your ignore list.

KBP ignoring me by posting about me.

Someone really doesn't understand what it means to ignore someone else.

Then again, this is the same person that posted that Galis is an American in the same thread that he posted that Galis is also not an American.

Gotta love that KBP logic!!!

[Pero]

Someone kept claiming that Dirk won championships by failing to win FIBA tournaments.

No one claimed that.

[smeagol]

You are confusing individual play with team play.

I'm not confusing anything. I stand behind what I said.

Their teammates come into play when saying one is a winner and another is a loser.

Dirk had plenty of AS caliber players around him and has won bobkus in the NBA. That makes him a little bit of a loser.

Swap Manu for Dirk and the spurs are not winning any less and likely much more.

rascal, your prediction powers suck and you know it. Don't try to re-write history. Your above statement is nothing more than speculation.

Having Dirk instead of Manu the last 3 years the spurs would have a better shot in the playoffs since Manu has come up lame the last 3 years.

Manu was injured two of those three years. Many other players swapped with Manu would've given the Spurs a better shot in the playoffs. Your comment is worthless.

[red strike 07]

LOL

Dirk tonight, just passed Larry Bird in all time scoring.

Going by logic of most Manu riders here, then Robert Horry is arguably one of the best players that has ever played the game of Basketball ever.

[ducks]

He asked if Dirk has won anything. Silvers and bronzes is not winning anything. It's actually losing.

manu won no le in nba without tp or duncan

who both have finals mvp

[ducks]

Dirk has won nothing in the NBA despite playing alongside great players. In that respect, he is a bit of a loser . . .

dirk teamed up with a player like duncan and tp would have finals mvp

[ducks]

Manu was injured two of those three years. Many other players swapped with Manu would've given the Spurs a better shot in the playoffs. Your comment is worthless.

therefore DIRK was way better

dirk is way better heck dirk is even better then duncan right now

[temujin]

LOL

Dirk tonight, just passed Larry Bird in all time scoring.

Going by logic of most Manu riders here, then Robert Horry is arguably one of the best players that has ever played the game of Basketball ever.

Absolutely.

[temujin]

manu won no le in nba without tp or duncan

who both have finals mvp

Following up with your logic.

Duncan won no Olympics without Ginobili.
Playing with $150 millions worth of teammates.
Brown and Pop coaching.

Ginobili won the Olympics (MVP) without Duncan.
Playing with $1 million worth of teammates.
Magnano coaching.

[temujin]

Obviously Horry was a much better player than Nowitski could ever be.

Just ask any coach who they'd rather have to win something.

[red strike 07]

Absolutely.

Get the out of here

[temujin]

Get the out of here

Great argument.

[temujin]

You are 100% the troll of that mel_13 clown. You are now on ignore.

Here is Nick Galis talking in fluent Greek in an interview:





temujin/mel_13 you appear to be some kind of uneducated, ignorant, xenophobic redneck.

KBP you a big laughter to all of us and we all get a kick,
but I am givining you a little "advice".

Don't cross that line, with people you have not the foggiest idea of who they are, what they are doing.
What their record is on forums such as this.

Just don't.

Be a nice baby and proceed with your nonsense.

[Pero]

You claimed that Dirk "won" medals. Silver and bronze is NOT winning. This is a simple fact. He has never won an anything with a team.

No, a simple fact is that we say someone won a silver medal or someone won a bronze medal. No one says someone lost a silver medal, or something stupid like that, well no one except you.

[Pero]

Why are you telling me this? I never claimed Manu was the best international player. Anyone and everyone that claims either Manu or Dirk as the best international player know absolutely zero about basketball history.

Neither one of them is the best international player.

I don't know if Dirk would be the best international player but, Dirk is the best international player in the history of the NBA.

[lefty]

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[J_Paco]

Hakeem Olajuwon is the greatest international player ever. The dude put up insane numbers and was a two-time Finals MVP. Hakeem was also the best big man in what might be the last truly great big man era.

I would say that Timmy deserves that crown, but the Virgin Islands are a U.S. territory which complicates the matter.

[Pero]

It does not and never has. You don't win a silver medal or a bronze. It is called a consolation prize for losing.

Not in national sports. Club sports is different though.

[Pero]

No he is not.

Hakeem Olajuwon is and anyone that says otherwise should be banned from any discussion about basketball.

I would say he is if I considered him an international player, but I don't.

[J_Paco]

I would say he is if I considered him an international player, but I don't.

How is someone that was born in Nigeria (I believe) not an international player?

He received his U.S. citizenship in his 30's and probably holds dual citizenship.

[Pero]

How is someone that was born in Nigeria (I believe) not an international player?

He received his U.S. citizenship in his 30's and probably holds dual citizenship.

Mainly because he played for US national team. Get it? US NATIONAL team. Not US international team or Nigerian team. But he's more international than Tim Duncan hehe and with him I at least understand where people are coming from, I just don't agree.