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Jefferson's defense is MILES ahead of where it was last year...lair and Jefferson haven't been here long enough for me to just rely on them getting better on their own.
I don't see the safeness in your assumption but I guess we will agree to disagree. Blair and Jefferson haven't been here long enough for me to just rely on them getting better on their own...I guess we can cross our fingers. Bonner's history suggests he will always be an inferior defender in the paint and Hill's defense seems to depend entirely on the matchup. He is ok if guarding a 1 on 1 isolation player but struggles against shooters working off of screens.
Jefferson's defense is MILES ahead of where it was last year...lair and Jefferson haven't been here long enough for me to just rely on them getting better on their own.
We let him get hot. We let Richardson get hot. We overplayed Amare and we picked our poison.
The problem is that we no longer have anybody to put out a fire. Happened tonight with Allen.
You can't call it a fluke when it happens 4 games in a row. The Lakers closed out on them and the fire cooled down pretty quickly.
Im sorry you can't LET someone get hot.
They either are or arent'.
The Lakers shut them down because they were scared as against the Lakers.
But yet we have gotten worse as a team defensively...statistically at least. If Jefferson has raised his defense, the remainder of the starting 5 must have really regressed.
What?
When you give up open looks and they knock them down, you give them confidence. Players get hot all the time. Bowen used to be a master of putting out those fires. We just don't have anybody that can do that in this roster.
No, the Lakers can simply cover Amare one on one. They don't need to gamble.
Let me give you a fresher example: We dared Rondo to shoot tonight, and he got hot. We simply picked our poison and let him get hot.
Maybe a 6-5 starting center isn't a viable way to build an elite defense? Backed up by a perimeter big and an undersized Methusula?
Gimmickball will only get you so far.
Agreed...hence why I don't have the trust that things will improve based solely on history...
I disagree about Jefferson's defense getting better, I don't see a difference from last year..offensively, he's obviously much better, but the D is the same IMO..
I agree about Blair..I made a thread when the season began, about Blair in the starting lineup..it's impossible to play good D on a consistent basis when Blair is in the lineup, his defensive IQ is too low..
Blair needs to watch as much tape of Glen Davis as possible..he needs to model his entire game after him..
I don't think I can equate Channing Frye and Rajon Rondo.
You sure can move the goalposts...
Pop's infatuation with Bonner during critical junctures of the game (especially when he is not hitting from the arc) will be the undoing of this team. I hate to put the blame squarely on Bonner but because, as someone mentioned earlier, we no longer have a legit perimeter stopper the pressure to defend lies on the interior defenders.
I just don't get it with Pop. We need size and a legit seven foot defender on the inside to go along with Timmy. Last year he refused to give Ian any minutes when we desperately needed interior defending and this year he is pulling the same with Splitter.
Not at all,
Channing Frye - a mediocre basketball player
Rajon Rondo - a budding star
If Rajon Rondo was the one bagging jumpers at every turn in the second round I would be with you.
But it was Channing freaking Frye.
This the same guy thats losing minutes to Brian Cardinal in Dallas?
Bonner was hitting shots, the Celtics adjusted and stuck a guy on him constantly the whole second half.
We're discussing wether you can let players get hot or not, and you pull a Rondo-Fry comparison?
Fry was hitting them because we gambled on the pick and roll between Nash and Amare. Our rotations were not existent and thus, he got open looks. By the time we decided to actually focus on him, he was already hot. Same thing happened with Richardson and their other shooters. We decided that if we were going to get beat, it was not going to be Amare. Well, the other guys delivered.
Teams do that all the time against us too. That's how you get a mediocre player like Bonner hitting 7/7. When teams actually close on him, he becomes useless. Exactly what happened with Fry against the Lakers.
Avery Johnson and Mike Brown have CotY awards...
Just sayin...
Damnitt, take off that stupid helmet when you watch games.
Which means what in 2011? Or is that the pinnacle?
Pop sat his players because they couldn't stop squat against the Knicks. It was complete futility and I for one am glad Pop decided to pull the plug. It was a loss all the way.
Boston plays at a less frantic pace which makes it easier to guard them. Too bad the perimeter defenders took the night off.
well, where is it?
Okay, I just want timvp to reply in timvp speak why he was mentioning the Spurs athleticism is greater with Hill in the lineup.
What difference does athleticism make if Hill sucks more often than not on defense?
I was so happy after the Laker victory that I bought into the hype but, really, overall, Hill is not good at defense. We said this at the conclusion of every one of his seasons thus far. He's like our Roddy Beaubois. He had a handful of great rookie defensive games.....then he shows us flashes. That's it.
What frustrates the out of me (and probably all of you) is that he has shown games where he can make a MAJOR difference with his defense.....and we're sitting here dumbfounded when he plays the way he has the last two days.
I am finished with giving Hill a free pass. I want to see Pop and Coach Bud ripping his ing asshole open every mistake he makes again. Pop giving him Free Reign on a timeout his rookie year obviously has not worked.
George Hill has the talent to be something great. But his inconsistency is a big detriment. And I think over half the ST'ers have honestly forgot how much of an abortion he was in the Phoenix Suns series of last playoffs.
Simply amazing. Go Spurs.
edit: i just want timvp to respond to that first part.
the rest was just me ranting
Message from above, my ass. It's called law of averages. They were due to lose a close game and due for a losing streak period.
If anything, you could look at the Spurs having a chance to win that game at the end as being a gift from the "basketball gods".
The fact that they didn't win tonight doesn't make last night's decision wrong.
Hill just does not get around screens well. Wouldn't Parker be better on Allen and Hill on Rondo - kinda like how Pop put Parker on Rip and Bowen on Billups in the last quarter of 05 finals game 7? Maybe the series wouldn't have gone 7 games if Pop had done that earlier seeing as Billups was the "head of the snake."
Pop's fascination with Hill as the best perimeter defender needs to be adjusted depending on the players being guarded. Instead of putting Hill on the best (hot) offensive player, put him on Rondo so Hill's long arms can deflect some of Rondo's assists. Let Parker chase Allen around the screens.
If Bonner was being guarded closely, he's useless on offense. Got tired of seeing Davis back him down in the post. Pop's love of Bonner is going to be the death of this team. Why didn't he play someone else if Bonner wasn't contributing offensively?
He needs to incorporate Splitter, but I'm resigned to Splitter sitting on the bench his rookie year a la Oberto. At least he's giving Neal some run. Maybe Anderson will get a chance. This team is not going to win anything if the defense doesn't improve.
Making a joke to DeadlyDynasty's avatar's helmet. Now go away and go play on the NBA Forum.
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