Tiago Splitter: 15 minutes and...

[wontstartdumbthreads]

What you don't seem to grasp is that RJ was who he was as well when he came to the Spurs. Now he's playing better defense, he spent the Summer months working on fundamentals, and he's an asset to the team.

The almost indescribably great different between the most other franchises, including those in the Euro league, and the Spurs is that the Spurs organization DEVELOPS players. It doesn't just settle with what a player brings to the table. If we did that, we would be the Timberwolves, the Kings or the Clippers.

We (Spurs fans) don't expect Tiago to be what he was in Euro league play. We expect him to be what the Spurs need him to be through development based training.

It's a strange concept for player fans, I know, but team and game fans generally understand that potential exists in players that wasn't necessarily discovered on their previous team (See Roger Mason Jr as an example).

So hesh up fool.

Right. Because the Spurs have been really successful at developing big men.

[rmt]

Tiago is a much better player than McDyess. McDyess should already be retired. He's totally washed up.

If Dice is totally washed up, Spurs are in a load of trouble because Dice will be the one closing games with TD in the playoffs. He's still the 2nd best big after Duncan - just can't play that much or that often.

Bonner is injured. I don't see any reason why Pop can't give Splitter some PT as long as it isn't costing them games. Play him with Manu - can't stand to see him out there with Hill and RJ who never pass the ball.

Splitter seriously needs to calm down when he's out there. That fall last night looked dangerous. Guess he's over-eager since he doesn't get much PT.

[BRs.Ganso]

Prior to last year, the ACB had won 3 out of the last 30 Euroleague les. It's amazing that you would brag about that league, when it manages just to win 1 out of 10 championships.

The Mediterranean League, where Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, and Aris will play starting next season has 6 Euroleague teams, not 2. And it will have 9 Euroleague teams in the following season. But yes, the ACB with 4 or 5 is "better".....

As usual, you prove that you know zero about European basketball and that you are nothing but a troll.

are u greek?

[rasho8]

Yes he is.

Also LOL GREECE your basketball league only has 2 good teams, and the rest of Eastern Europe each country has ONE good team. So they went and formed a league and told the rest of their scrub leagues they weren't playing with them anymore.

So all the scrub leagues in Europe will send their really good teams to the new league and have 9 teams from these countries Greece, Italy, Serbia, Turkey, Israel, Cyprus and Bulgaria plus possibly more.

And the ACB alone sends 5.

Sounds like the ACB is still the best league considering Spain alone can send 5 teams tot he Euroleague championship.

[ChuckD]

are u greek?

He plays one on the internets, but he's really from Pig's Knuckle Arkansas.

[Mel_13]

are u greek?

He's a fake Greek.

He's also a fake Spurs fan.

Mostly he's just fake, except in his Spanoulis love. That's real.

[rasho8]

Mostly he's just fake, except in his Spanoulis love. That's real.

This is so true it isnt funny. I wonder if he has Spanoulis bed sheets.

[wontstartdumbthreads]

This is so true it isnt funny. I wonder if he has Spanoulis bed sheets.

I think consistently going Greek could certainly lead to bed sheets. But more embarassing would be sheeting himself in public.

[Werdsniper2]

http://www.48minutesof .com/san-a...the-difference

"A second quarter run that was kick-started by defensive energy from Tiago Splitter (yes, Tiago Splitter)"

At least he gets some recognition.

[Brutalis]

I careless about the Tiago debate but the fact is he looks soft and confused.

[BRs.Ganso]

he's Greek... this explains he's why he hates Splitter and ACB...

Greece economy = fail

[DMC]

Right. Because the Spurs have been really successful at developing big men.

The only two notable big men they've had in a long time were Dave and Tim. Rasho was pretty good, and Oberto was good. The rest were bottom rung players that the Spurs made do with.

Tell me ONE big man that the Spurs did not develop, who was developed beyond his Spurs skillset by some other team.

[temujin]

Prior to last year, the ACB had won 3 out of the last 30 Euroleague les. It's amazing that you would brag about that league, when it manages just to win 1 out of 10 championships.

The Mediterranean League, where Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, and Aris will play starting next season has 6 Euroleague teams, not 2. And it will have 9 Euroleague teams in the following season. But yes, the ACB with 4 or 5 is "better".....

As usual, you prove that you know zero about European basketball and that you are nothing but a troll.

Vasilakopoulos katopoulos stuff.
He got defeated for FIBA president last year (guess what, another greek losing. Guess what, no more ing grecian team winning euroleague), and he wants to form a Mediterranean "league".
A mediterranean without Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, and Spain.

Good luck with Cyprus, but only the greek part of it!

Is Moldova included??



Aren't you just tired of writing idiotic stuff?
Don't you have a father that checks out once in a while what an amazing amount of stupidity you are inondating the internet with?

[Werdsniper2]

Manu_Forever has some strange obsession with Splitter.

It's like he wakes up and gets excited to hate.

[Capt Bringdown]

http://www.48minutesof .com/san-a...the-difference

"A second quarter run that was kick-started by defensive energy from Tiago Splitter (yes, Tiago Splitter)"

At least he gets some recognition.

Splitter plays much better defense than Blair. Pop's refusal to start Splitter over Blair is puzzling to say the least.

In the PO's, Pop's going to be forced to bench Blair, and then we're left with Dice attempting to hold down the fort. And that's going to be painful.

[DMC]

I thought last night that Pop is probably wishing he would have played Splitter more minutes, because if Dice goes down, he's pretty much hosed at that position. At least let's learn Splitter's areas of improvement so we can work on ways around his weaknesses.

[Brazil]

Plus he's from Brazil...

But no agenda in your game, amirite?

Didn't I say that? I guess I wasn't creative enough with my English to impress upon you my intent.

I'm sure you will forgive my poor english understanding skills but I thought you were saying that I had an agenda when it comes to Splitter because my user name is Brazil.

Anyway he played ok against Denver didn't he ?

[DMC]

I'm sure you will forgive my poor english understanding skills but I thought you were saying that I had an agenda when it comes to Splitter because my user name is Brazil.

Anyway he played ok against Denver didn't he ?

Sure, he played his ass off, almost literally.

[ezau]

Splitter looked good last night. He displayed good energy and excellent defense in limited minutes. He's gonna get more played time especially after the All-Star break, POP simply doesn't have a choice but to play this kid.

[rr2418]

Again, it really makes no sense to expect him to suddenly develop a low post game at age 26. He never had one in Europe, so why is he expected to have one now in the NBA and to suddenly gain it at age 26?

It's completely unrealistic and makes no sense. If the Spurs want scoring from Splitter they need to use him in the pick and roll and pair him with Manu. That's how he scores, along with some put backs from offensive rebounds.

I will explain it here YET AGAIN. Splitter never had any post game, nor one to one game in Europe. His entire offense was getting layups and dunks off of wide open spoon fed passes off the pick and roll from two of the best passers on the planet, Prigioni and Huertas.

Other than that, he scored from some offensive put backs on offensive rebounds and on some free throws when he would get fouled. He NEVER had any individual offensive skills.

It is totally unrealistic to expect him to have to develop this now at age 26. The Spurs simply will either use Splitter in the pick and roll with Manu creating for him, or they can expect him to be a minimal scorer. It is that simple.

You make it seem like he had a post game in Europe, but it isn't good enough for the NBA and that he can work on it and then get it good enough for the NBA. The problem with this theory is that he in fact never had any low post game in Europe.

I really want to know where all the ideas and views of Splitter on the forum came from. It can't all be from that idiot Sean Elliott and from the fake Euro homer trolls. I mean there is such an incredible disconnect here with the type of player Splitter actually is, to what the fans seem to think he is, that it's just really strange.

He is like the 180 complete opposite in every single aspect of what Spurs fans seem to think he is. I guess it just proves that 99.99 percent of NBA fans have never seen a basketball game that was not NBA in their whole lives. But it is still really strange that the whole forum here is so totally confused as to just what type of player Splitter is.

In the 3 previous years since the Spurs drafted him, did anyone here ever, even one time, watch him play a Euroleague game? It sure the does not seem like it from the comments people make about him here...

Don't take this the wrong way b/c this is a legit question. Where did you see him play international ball? TV? I really have no opinion of him b/c I've never seen him play before he came to the Spurs. All I know is Pop and the rest of the staff see something in him and believe he can help the team. I know as a fan we all sometimes like to think we know more than the coaches do. The teams send scouts over seas to see them play and when they're finally here, they see them everyday at practice. Again, I'm just wondering.

[temujin]

Don't take this the wrong way b/c this is a legit question. Where did you see him play international ball? TV? I really have no opinion of him b/c I've never seen him play before he came to the Spurs. All I know is Pop and the rest of the staff see something in him and believe he can help the team. I know as a fan we all sometimes like to think we know more than the coaches do. The teams send scouts over seas to see them play and when they're finally here, they see them everyday at practice. Again, I'm just wondering.

As soon as Splitter starts to understand the way the game is called in the NBA, and as long as those PnR with Manu will start looking like the ones he has played with Prigioni and Marcelinho for YEARS,
everything is going to fall in place with Splitter.

NBA playoffs are going to be a lot more physical and that's when Splitter will be OK, provided that he gets some valuable minute from now on.

[Mel_13]

I've seen just about all of his Euroleague games the last 3 years on TV.

The backyard of MFKBP's house in Arkansas:

Also, NBA fans greatly exaggerate the level and amount of scouting that NBA teams do in Europe. GREATLY exaggerate it.

An NBA team might scout a guy twice in a year in Europe, and usually no more than once. For some reason, NBA fans think every NBA team has a personal on-call scout for every team in Europe.

The truth is that NBA teams scout a player in Europe that they might be interested in about 1-2 times in an entire season.

How could you possibly know this? Do they scan the crowd at the Euroleague games you watch on your TV in Arkansas for NBA scouts. Do these guys wear big signs identifying which team they work for? Do you keep a running tally of which scout attends which game?

[awktalk]

Does anyone have the video of this? http://www.48minutesof .com/it-st...t-so-promising

[Werdsniper2]

Does anyone have the video of this? http://www.48minutesof .com/it-st...t-so-promising

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXaxWbtbHSw

[awktalk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXaxWbtbHSw

thanks.