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You misunderstood; I didn't care how many you looked at.
That's pretty oxymoronic, if you ask me.
So, how is this not the worst administration, ever?
Exactly what has been done right since January 21, 2009?
You've never rebutted. You've always criticized the poster.I'm sorry, but I don't feel the need to dignify the rants and raves of a delusional lunatic with an actual rebuttal anymore than I feel the need to tell the crazy guy on the corner that the sky is indeed blue and not purple.
You misunderstood; I didn't care how many you looked at.
That's pretty oxymoronic, if you ask me.
So, how is this not the worst administration, ever?
Exactly what has been done right since January 21, 2009?
Are you kidding? All Obama has done is "stick his in." Damn, he had Saudi Arabia berating him for embarrassing Mubarek. I like how Obama snapped to after getting slapped by a Sheik.
Y'all seriously believe this idiot has a diplomatic bone in his body?
The real reason Mubarek resigned..
This is about Eygpt not about that bag barry or what if a repug was at the helm. It really is pretty cool how all this went down. The military said they would not fire on it's own people and the dictator couldn't talk his way out of the storm. I think Eygpt is going to be okay. To bad Iran has no problem killing it's own.
Didn't take long.........FauxNews on Armageddon Watch.
Beck and Hannity WOW
You're seriously upset that the brutal dictator was embarrassed by Obama and happy that another brutal dictator tried to stand up for the other brutal dictator.
You're really ed up, yoni.
I totally agree, Yoni. Barry should have told all those sand blastin es to suck his if they didn't like him sticking up for the Egyptian people's right to protest. If Mubarek's own people don't respect him enough to clear the streets, then he's already suffered the biggest embarrassment possible.
lol @ Fox News showing nothing but fires and masked men in their coverage of Egypt. omg ze rapture!!!
It doesn't. Still not taking the bait.
Feel free to go start Yonivore Thread #45, "Obama booga booga booga", it would be more appropriate than trying to start something in a thread about Egypt.
I await yoni's spirited defense of Nixon and James Buchanan, although it is impossible for him to love them as much as he loves Mubarak.
Yoni's love for any leader is directly proportional to the number of people that person has had tortured, it seems.
Still talking about me, I see.
So, have you mounted a defense of your feckless President?
You never defined feck.
Really, yoni -- what did you demand Obama do RE: Egypt (you know, the subject of the thread)?
What do you demand now?
Speak the feck up.
in what way?
Chumpy has a good point.
What *should* Obama have done/said?
What would you have done/said?
George Friedman, founder of stratfor was on NPR today talking about his new book "The Next Decade"
He touched on Egypt....paraphrasing, he was saying that the public perception that this was some sort of wide spread grassroots organized protests is dubious. 325,000 people in one square do not represent an entire nation. Plenty of people did not protest, we don't know where the majority of Egyptians stand. The military was extremely lucky that the revolt happened, which is why they supported the riots via friendly enforcement, and clashed with Egyptian police who were harassing protesters. Found it quite convenient that the military had this opportunity to take over, seeing as how they had been wanting to overthrow Mubarak for some time due to his succession plan not being acceptable.
Mentioned how, as of right now, the Egyptian people technically have less freedom than they did previous to Mubarak resigning.
He said more, that's all I could remember. The interview was on kera
http://www.kera.org/think
They should podcast it up soon.
That is why it is imperative we invade and force them to choose our choice for themselves democratically.
I don't think he'd say that is a good idea. I don't think he said that with an hostile agenda. He was just saying just looking at the numbers of protesters involved....that more people were protesting in real numbers and percentages in Iran in 1979 and East Europe in 1989. He just was not convinced by the numbers and facts we know that this was some huge grassroots thing like some have been describing it. He didn't rule out the possibility, the numbers just cast doubt on it. Overall he said it was a very weird revolution, especially in regards to how perfect a situation it created for the military.
Certainly, I'm just reflecting the Yoni Beck POV.
Can you amplify on this? I didn't listen to the podcast.
Well the military had been wanting mubarak out because he wanted his unqualified son to take over. When these protests started the military made sure not to piss the people off and used it to take mubarak out. They would have had difficulty doing this without the protests. Its just i was saying a page or two back, the military was the most likely to take over regardless of want the protesters wanted. That they cried for the military to save them created a perfect scenario the military could use.
So the military wasn't behind Mubarak, huh. That's what wasn't sitting well with me. I thought the military was another arm of mubarack. If they were against him then who was leading the military. Was it all internal?
I'm assuming the military is supposed to fall under Mubarak, but if the generals/upper brass weren't fans of him, then they in essence mutiny. They most likely did whatw as asked of them without being supportive of his stance.
See that's the thing. It's kinda late in the game to keep on assuming this and that. Egypt isn't in any better status than a week ago. This mutiny wasnt reported on. At least I didn't see anything on it. It's all still basically another "mission accomplished" moment sans liberal outrage......8 years later. Ahem.
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