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Carl Sagan just took Darrin to the wood shed. Enjoy your ass whooping. You may need a transplant by now.
Dude, you don't know what happens when you die. It's okay to say that. Say it with me. "I don't know what happens when someone dies, I never died before so I don't know"
Now with that admission I think when you die you just die but Im have no clue.
Carl Sagan just took Darrin to the wood shed. Enjoy your ass whooping. You may need a transplant by now.
You say "Christianity" as if that denotes a single set of beliefs among sects, as to the requirements for entrance into heaven. Do they?
If you do good work for the sake of personal salvation, then you're really just helping yourself. And other peoples' god delusions have hurt countless people. Bush went to war in Iraq, in part, because God told him in a dream.
I don't know. I only know what I believe; can't help you figure out everyone else's but, have fun with that.
So when you say "Christianity" you really mean the version of Christianity that you ascribe to, not all those other silly branches, right?
Just for fun, search google under "what is christianity" and look at the first URL.
(edit to add a list)
1 Catholicism
1.1 Catholic Church2 Protestantism
1.1.1 The Latin Rite
1.1.2 Eastern Catholic Churches 1.2 Eastern Orthodox Church
1.3 Oriental Orthodox Church
1.4 Assyrian Church of the East
1.5 Other churches self-identified as Catholic
1.5.1 Independent
1.5.2 Orthodox
1.5.2.1 Byzantine
1.5.2.2 Oriental
1.5.2.3 Western-Rite
1.5.3 Assyrian
2.1 Pre-Lutheran Protestants3 Latter Day Saints
2.2 Lutheranism
2.3 Anglican Churches
2.3.1 Anglican Communion
2.3.2 Other Anglican groups
2.4 Reformed Churches
2.5 Presbyterianism
2.6 Congregationalist Churches
2.7 Anabaptists
2.8 Brethren
2.9 Methodists
2.10 Pietists and Holiness Churches
2.11 Baptists
2.11.1 Spiritual Baptists
2.12 Apostolic Churches – Irvingites
2.13 Pentecostalism
2.14 Charismatics
2.14.1 Neo-Charismatic Churches
2.15 African Initiated Churches
2.16 United and uniting churches
2.17 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
2.18 Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement
2.19 Southcot es
2.20 Millerites and comparable groups
2.20.1 Sabbath-Keeping Churches, Adventist
2.20.2 Sabbath-Keeping Churches, Non-Adventist
2.20.3 Sunday Adventists
2.20.4 Sacred Name Groups
2.21 British-Israelism
2.22 Miscellaneous/Other
3.1 "Prairie Saint" denominations4 Nontrinitarian groups
3.2 Rocky Mountains denominations
3.3 Other denominations
4.1 Oneness Pentecostalism5 Messianic Judaism
4.2 Unitarianism and Universalism
4.3 Bible Student groups
4.4 Swedenborgianism
4.5 Other non-Trinitarians
6 Jewish Christians
7 Esoteric Christianity
8 New Thought
9 Syncretistic religions incorporating elements of Christianity
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So which group of Christianity has it right?
Last edited by RandomGuy; 02-04-2011 at 05:39 PM.
"One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Any other source besides this one or you going to take Nabils word for it. Don't forget congress wanted this war too. Dems and Repugs. Don't forget Obama loves this war. Lets not forget the press doesn't cover the war nearly as much, not even a slimmer as much as it did when barry took over. The dems and media are showing just how much they could careless about war. It was a political maneuver that got a dem in office. We are not even close to pulling out of the wars. In fact we sent more troops to Afgan. Pretty ing pathetic.
Most probably, none of them.
You're losing your composure.
But it keeps this country on top of the world... the way God wanted it.
I will take their foreign ministers word for it because it is exactly consistent with what I'd expect Bush to say.
And congress wanted this war? The push for the Iraq war was ALL from the Bush administration. Congress approved it when dems were told we'd be nuked into the ground if they didn't.
How so? I truly believe if there were enough atheists, they'd rank up there on the violence scale. You're in a minority whose only recourse is the courts...and blogs or forums.
What is this suppose to mean?
Side note, I don't understand how the dems,media, code pink types can simply just ignore the war since the dems took office. I honestly get sick to my stomach to think they really didnt give two s about the men and woman dying on both sides they cried and protested for. For the life of me I wish just one far left poster on this site would throw up their hands and say "Goddamnit Jack Sommerset, I ing agree with you about the war, I voted for Barry because I wanted out of the war and look we are still killing people, I am a demcorat and when 2012 rolls around I will do my best to find a replacement for Obongo"
Atheism coincides in a positive correlation with education.
.... you seem like a smart guy, or at least you sound like you know what you're talking about.... you never say more than you need to unless someone asks it.
So please humor me... convince me to turn a new leaf. I've sat here and made my points for atheism, but you haven't kept up your side of the debate for God.
I'm sure you vote for McCain's 1,000 year war because you hate war so much!
There, fixed that.
I'm not here to convince you of anything except that atheism isn't interested in simply being an ideology that doesn't believe in God, atheists are more about convincing everyone, not an atheist, that there is no God.
If there is no God, why the necessity to convince everyone?
I wouldn't say that making me atheist makes me left wing. It does however put me on the left side of most stances.
You know, I'll admit that I bought into Obama's charisma. So far he has been a disappointment... though, the more I look into this american political system, the more I realize that it will never change. Right.... left.... both parties are far to the right of nearly every other country's rightest.
This is the way the usa will be until we are overthrown/collapse/<insert inevitable history reoccurrence >.
Because it holds the world back.
Where would we be if God hadn't "held us back?"
People can say religion caused most of the planets wars which is true but if most people didn't believe in god, heaven and in one form or another there would be alot more violence in the world. Keeps most people honest, imo.
Carl Sagan -- the same guy who said the Kuwaiti oil fires would cause a nuclear winter? Yeah, he really took me to the wood shed.
You are very pompous and have a low IQ. Why don't you address the matter at hand instead of trying to distract. Very Repub of you to do this.Carl Sagan -- the same guy who said the Kuwaiti oil fires would cause a nuclear winter? Yeah, he really took me to the wood shed.
We would be a much more advanced race if science was fully accepted.
Aside from the wars, racism, and sexism.... corrupted churches and murders... discrimination against sexuals.... we wouldn't have to deal with uneducated creationist bull .
Our space exploration would be further along... our stem cell research would be further along... sexual education for teens would actually be efficient....
hey, you know what. I named all of the consequences of religion.... and you could use the same paragraph to describe a conservative. Go figure!
I dunno about that.... I don't think you realize how many corrupted religious fanatics there are and have been in the past.
I don't know about that either. Religious folks are pretty ed up with their wars and all. I changed my mind.
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