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The best thing was when he tried to defend the rich attacking the poor, but then complain how unfair it was that the rich get attacked by the poor in return.
I think it was a flub by a very tired man who meant to say "47" states, as in the 47 of 48 lower states.Clearly he was joking about the amount of states he's visited. Have you no sense of humor?
Let me find the clip where GW admits to finding WMD in Iraq even though there were none...
But that doesn't stop people with an ideological ax to grind and an urge to "win at all costs", fairness be damned from bringing it up repeatedly.
The best thing was when he tried to defend the rich attacking the poor, but then complain how unfair it was that the rich get attacked by the poor in return.
That stood out to me, too.
Although I will say, stating that nothing new has occurred in philosophy in the last 110 years (why so specific) was pretty amazingly boneheaded too.
vy65 never explained that. Perhaps he thought his philosophical a en would be wasted here.
It has been my experience that people who tend to defend the rich the most in forums tend to be "aspirants" with little hope of ever actually becoming rich.The best thing was when he tried to defend the rich attacking the poor, but then complain how unfair it was that the rich get attacked by the poor in return.
"useful idiots" to those super-wealthy in my opinion.
Perhaps there was none to be shared.
At the least, it seems my reading recommendations will go unheeded.
Those poor richies! How dare the peasants ask for redistribution!
Now, if I pay someone to write a tax loophole in for my business, that's totally fine of course. I'm creating jobs! I'm what runs America!
Seems to be a pattern. After brief conversation and fellowship, like a great, disdainful bird, vy65 takes a dump on our heads and flies off.
At least he left us something to remember him by.
(snif)
Venality, the gift that keeps on giving?
???
Most of your post is spot-on, but I don't like seeing Google's success characterized as luck. They really are a talented company doing exciting things. Now Microsoft? Pure luck and little to nothing innovative.
"Pure luck"
bull .
It was commercial extortion.
Gates (a lawyer's son) offered two contracts for MS-DOS to PC compatible mfrs. A blanket license if you put MS-DOS on every PC shipped, or a much higher per-machine MS-DOS license.
PC compatible mfrs were already shipping millions of machines, and shaving every penny. Taking a hit of $10s/machine for a per-machine license was totally unaccptable, so they put MS-DOS on every machine, precluding any other OS, in effect.
aka the D0S tax, then the DOS/Windows tax.
The rest is history, thanks to the "network effect"
I did not know that.
Pure luck is a very fair characterization of Microsoft's success. It was pure luck that Xerox was too stupid to see they could have had the world by the balls with the Alto, but they, like pretty much everyone else in business outside of Apple, wrote off Alan Kay and his group as whackos for their studies that based operating systems off research into child psychology. It was pure luck that Xerox just handed their technology over to Apple. It was pure luck that IBM was so stupid as to hand off their future to an unremarkable company whose claim to fame was creating a lousy language that couldn't even handle recursion, and thus was about 20 years after its time. Moore's Law was incredible stroke of fortune for Microsoft. It allowed them to piggyback on real innovators in hardware, and build their operating system like the pyramids: layers of crap on top of crap, done by brute force. Without Moore's Law, no bloatware Windows dominating the market.
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Wow. Neat story.
(scribble, scribble)
http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Valley-Ma.../dp/0071358927
This is the book "The Pirates of Silicon Valley" was based on. It's a great read ...... kinda the PC equivalent of Lansing Lamont's "Day of Trinity".
Microsoft was pretty well-known for doing things to bolster their presence in the computing world... which is what led to the landmark an rust case in the first place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle its flagship Internet Explorer (IE) web browser software with its Microsoft Windows operating system. Bundling them together is alleged to have been responsible for Microsoft's victory in the browser wars as every Windows user had a copy of Internet Explorer. It was further alleged that this unfairly[citation needed] restricted the market for competing web browsers (such as Netscape Navigator or Opera) that were slow to download over a modem or had to be purchased at a store.
If you're interested by that story, you should see this presentation Alan Kay did about his group's work at Xerox PARC; it's really fascinating stuff. Watch the two lectures on user interfaces.
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_d...esterid=2008-D
The rest of the course is pretty mind-blowing stuff too.
My point was just that if you look at the most prominent modern philosophers (Foucault, Derrida, Zizek, Butler, etc...), they really haven't done much other than to apply either Nietzsche or Marx to the 20th/21st century.
I guess Heidegger was more innovative, but there might be an argument he's just an updated Schopenhauer. He was also a Nazi.
What a get ...
(Much obliged for the linx.)
You forgot Freud. Otherwise, that's a comment worthy of the back of the book.
How original. Thanks for condescending to raise the level of small talk.
So, when you were talking about philosophy, were you referring to moral structures/frameworks only, and not specific areas of philosophy?
While I can't say I've read up on any philosopher that has provided a "new" way to view morality, I think the various experiments that have shown how people can be induced to seeing/hearing things due to pressure/stimulus on certain parts of the brain will have a far-reaching effect on moral arguments.
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