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Bonner career RS average fg% .472 3p% .417 rebounds 3.5
Bonner career PO average fg% .432 3p% .319 rebounds 2.0
He plays bad when it matters.
Enough said.
This is exactly how I feel about it. Bonner sucked bad in 2009 playoffs, and was pretty bad last years playoffs (he had two or three solid games). I think its logical to be very concerned and perhaps expect him to suck balls in this years playoffs. I am hopeful that he plays well but I'm not really holding my breath.
But I ING HATE when people outright lie about his performances this season and say he hasn't come through DURING this season. When he does, the haters scoff and put some idiotic qualifier on why he managed to somehow do well (defense didn't respect him, it was a ty team, that shot wasn't at an important moment, etc). He's had several decent-great games against top level compe ion (what more do you expect from an 8th or 9th man?) and his 4th quarter three point shooting has been solid all season. He's also had some terrible games where he either passes up shots, or bricks shots, and he usually plays pretty poor defense. But there is not one role player in the league who plays good every game. Everyone has terrible games...its just Bonner gets shat on like crazy when he does.
Bonner career RS average fg% .472 3p% .417 rebounds 3.5
Bonner career PO average fg% .432 3p% .319 rebounds 2.0
He plays bad when it matters.
Enough said.
This is just his shooting we're talking about, his "strength". On defencive end he regularly makes scrubs look like allstars, whereby pop is forced to sub him or double the afore mentioned scrub.
Well, Phil Jackson (wisely) plays Walton only 9 mins/game but Pop gives Bonner, what, 2nd most mins to a big, 22 min/game. Blair gives 8.5/7.1 compared to Bonner 7.3/3.4 in about the same PT. However, Blair is a 2nd year player, is still learning and will improve. Bonner already knows the system, has reached his ceiling and is a known playoff choker.
With interior defense as one of the weaknesses of this team, Bonner continues to get PT while Splitter racked up DNP-CDs. Hopefully, if/when the Spurs get to play LA, Pop will come to his senses and not play Bonner 22 mins/game. If Novak continues his shooting, play big with him at SF and TD/Dice/Splitter as the big men. I'm tired of seeing Bonner either clanging his 3s or falling backward with his arms up as every Marion/Diaw or big man abuses him in the post.
Bonner tries hard and can't change who he is. The fault is with the coach who continues to play him and didn't integrate Splitter.
No, you don't know what it means when it comes to shooting. Shooting is inherently inconsistent. 50% from the field and 40% from three are considered very good. So you first have to take that into account before determining whether a player has been inconsistent or not. The reality is, the guy has shot a ridiculous percentage from three and lead the league by a wide margin for virtually the entire season. If he hasn't been consistent, then no one has. Of course he's had brief swoons, but no extended slumps until now.
I don't see how he's overrated. He's constantly criticized and even those that are fans recognize what he is. No one thinks he's some star. What he is, is a useful role player. He's worth giving one final shot to in the playoffs, so long as he's on a short leash.
I would rather Splitter grow some the next few games and earn alot of those minutes as he is a post player and can board and play some D, thats all I wish for! I know what Bonner is gonna do, get burned by his man and miss wide open threes in the playoffs, if he is off he is outta there IMO and someone else need to get those mins. He has proven to be a choker in those games, even you can't deny that bro.
TD 21, I always felt I was the lone Bonner defender on Spurstalk, you and muslim Kobe, wish you'd come back me up in some of my threads lol.
He has to prove us wrong, not you guys there! You guys can talk all you want and defend BONNER, until he plays when it counts then you guys have nothing to say IMO! NOTHING! I want anyone on this team to do well, I just don't trust bonner and rightfully so.
lol bonner defenders
lol chazley still butthurt after the triple team he received in his thread
Its ok son, you did manage to take off before it really got ugly, using your rather weak "i'm playing poker" excuse. You should create a "Bonner Defenders" krew, you could provide the leadership, since you the st #1 poster, after all. Otherwise, your trolling gets owned piecemeal, tbh. I think, its your best option under the cir stances.
This thread was created by a guy I was dominating in another thread. He got butthurt that he couldn't beat me in a discussion about Bonner, so he created this thread so he could be reassured by all the other clueless Spurstalk posters who think Bonner blows.
Yes, I play online poker for a living. Don't care if you believe that's what I was doing, I'm here now.
Name one instance where I got owned discussion Bonner. Please, I BEG you to find one time it has happened.
So whats your opinion on the "Bonner Defenders" krew? Its a good idea, huh. With your leadership, you would be unstoppable. Think about it, if ginger hits couple of threes in the playoffs, you could be ting over everyone!! I know you with me on that.
I'm no Bonner defender. I've criticized him as much as anyone over the years, but a lot of the criticism this season is unwarranted. As if the guy was never going to have an extended shooting slump. And as if him having that inevitable slump now automatically means it'll carry over to the playoffs. But in the event it does, I'll want him stapled to the bench after a few games.
Sean Cagney, everyone knows he's a playoff choker. I'm not disputing that. I've said multiple times in this thread, though, that the sample size is limited, which is pat of the reason I think he deserves another chance, so long as he's on a short leash.
I agree. I want Bonner getting his regular minutes as usual in the playoffs. What I want in addition, is that he gets pulled if he's not hitting his shots or the second the other team starts to iso on him.
lol gray named dumbass
and lol chazely thinking hes the original Bonner defender. Tis not so, friend.
You say one thing decent about Bonner or one thing negative about Splitter then you are a "Bonner defender"... That's how it works here.
Actually you catch some if all your posts in the game thread are pointing out what Splitter does wrong on a night that he gets a double double, but that has nothing to do with Bonner.
Bonner's gonna crack some skulls. Put on your helmets.
Funny how that didn't happen. I actually try to defend the guy but since I said something positive about Bonner at some point I am pro-bonner and a tiago hater.no way you can like them both though, that would just be mind-boggling.
LOL at the SIG, bad players do not need haters they just tell the truth! Good players get hated on bro, a player as bad as bonner just has naysayers who speak the truth about him as a player.
It would be funny if it didn't happen, but it did. Go check your posts from the game thread. I like both of them, so I'm not sure where the strawman is coming from.Funny how that didn't happen. I actually try to defend the guy but since I said something positive about Bonner at some point I am pro-bonner and a tiago hater.
You're going to need two helmets!
Yes I remember what I said in the game thread. I thought Tiago had a good game and was very excited to see it. I also gave out as many positive as negative comments and have repeatedly made it known that I have a strong inclination for him getting more playing time. Now what?
That being said, I am not going to nuthug and hype the guy into being the next hakeem olajuwan and act like the guy is totally flawless on the court. If me saying " Tiagos D could have been better or Tiago please don't shoot that weak ass hook" is me being a tiago hater and a bonner lover then so be it.
lol acting like the amount of time wasted on an internet forum is an accomplishment
Bonner has played well this year
Why do so many Spurs fans about the guy non-stop?
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