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    That was one short ass episode...
    This.

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    i bet the night king walks by winterfell to attack kings landing, that's the only reason for the gold company to be there. Also I loled that brom had a scene with the hand instead of the queen, because they don't work together because leana headey hates his ass.
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    The collective reaction to the NK adding a dragon to his ranks was rather underwhelming, tbh.

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    That was one short ass episode...
    No shorter than any other. It’s 54 minutes long.

    Overall not a bad episode to kickstart the season but there were some cringey moments like the dragon giving Jon the look. I mean..what?

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    I thought is was a great episode. It's really impossible to please everybody at this point. If we get reunions we wanted to see, it's padding and fanservice. If we don't, people will ask why the characters didn't interact. If there is world building and setting the pieces, nothing happens. If the plot speeds along, people will call it rushed. D&D know that everybody can't be pleased, and they know that all the people who will watch every episode of the final season. It never fails.

    Also, anybody who agrees with the Northerners being distrustful of Daenerys, is a moron. She doesn't have to be there, Sansa. Why are you acting like a to her when she is trying to help? I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?

    Oh well, I read the spoilers anyway, and I know this fight so many people crave against Jon and Daenerys isn't going to happen.

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    I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?
    yeah it's pretty much moot at this point prepping for the final battle


    That last scene has me back on the Jamie is AA and Bran is NK theory, Jamie is gonna have to kill Bran to win the war.

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    Weak episode, terrible writing. I'm not usually a GOT hater but it was a rather underwhelming episode.

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    There's nothing GOT will be able to do to make people happy, tbh..the hype has reached historic levels, it's a social media phenomenon in addition to the usual popularity that comes with a great tv show..

    Between the hype and the book elitists, there's virtually no way that it's going to end on a high note..

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    It was ok. I get that it was just a setup episode though. Will see how the rest of the season starts to shake out

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    There's nothing GOT will be able to do to make people happy, tbh..the hype has reached historic levels, it's a social media phenomenon in addition to the usual popularity that comes with a great tv show..

    Between the hype and the book elitists, there's virtually no way that it's going to end on a high note..
    People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

    I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.

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    i dont mind having a setup episode, generally. and it's not like the content was poor in 8.1, but in a season with only 6 episodes, it just worry they're going to have to rush/cram a lot like they did in season 7

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    People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

    I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.
    from my understanding they've still been working with GRRM as a consultant even though the book material is up. i believe i had read something about them having access to his working manuscript, etc.

    but without an actual book with dialogue, pacing, etc written out, they've had to take a lot more liberty and its going to feel different... and it has. with that said, even in game of thrones, in a series that has gone on this long, there will always be absurd amounts of plot armor for certain players.

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    People will be happy and still criticize. That's fine... people like to discuss shows they love, and if all of the discussion was "We agree everything they're doing is awesome," it would make for boring conversation.

    I think the last few seasons have been great, but it also feels like a different show than seasons 1-5. Maybe that has something to do with following the books? (I haven't read them.) The pacing is completely different and it's also much more predictable than it used to be. This was a series that built its following on upending your expectations... killing its main character, the Red Wedding, etc.... Now it feels like fan fiction where everything that happens is exactly what its audience expected and wanted to happen. I'm on board with that as long as they don't have characters making dumb and out-of-character decisions just to facilitate the desired ending.
    That's fine, but the expectations should be different than they were at the beginning of the series..I don't think anybody expected it to become THIS big..

    It's been a mainstream show for years now, they wanted to attract a wider audience IMO..as with everything that goes mainstream, certain elements were going to suffer in favor of commercialism and attempting to appeal to the masses..

    There's nothing they could do to make me enjoy the show as much as I did during the first few seasons, but I fully expected this transition once I noticed how popular the show was getting and how mainstream it had become..

    Even ignoring all that, I can't think of many historically popular shows that had a widely satisfying ending..maybe Breaking Bad?

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    Basically a prologue episode, tbh.

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    GOT is also in a weird place where they need to balance the fight scenes vs. the dialogue and storylines.. they're spending more than any show ever has(even compared to blockbuster movies, actually) and most of that is allocated to the dragons and the major war scenes..

    It's a tough balance..personally, I prefer the dialogue and storylines over the fight scenes, but now that they have a much wider audience, they have to cater to both the large % of fans that watch it for the action scenes and the people like myself who prefer the chess match..

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    also, i really dont get the point of jon being the supposed "rightful heir to the throne"

    a) as a recruit and former member of the nights watch, he renounced all les and birthrights. so even if he was the heir, he renounced it by taking the black. end of story
    b) targaryens were booted out of the throne. they can kick and scream all they want, but the seven kingdoms all recognized the legitimacy of the baratheon throne. they recognized that legitimacy full well knowing that viserys targaryen was alive... and he would have been the "rightful heir" as the direct descendant of the previous king. its clear that the "targaryen birthright" no longer means . the seven kingdoms dont recognize them as legitimate rulers any more.
    c) jon has made it clear he doesnt want any of this. he didnt want to be king in the north. he certainly doesnt want to be king of the seven kingdoms. he already believes enough in daenerys to the point where he wouldn't actually stake a claim for it.

    considering C, the only way this has an impact is as follows:

    1) daenerys learns of jon's position, and feeling threatened, turns against him leading to some drama in that direction
    2) daenerys dies, and jon is able to stand in her place as all he followers: unsullied, the dragons, tyrells, greyjoys acknowledge that jon is as good as daenerys was and has the same claim of legitimacy she ever did

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    i thought the rescuing yara part was way too easy.

    and not to get too literal but the dragons should have saddles... no way you don't fall off at those speeds.

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    i thought the rescuing yara part was way too easy.

    and not to get too literal but the dragons should have saddles... no way you don't fall off at those speeds.
    Nah the Yara and whole Iron Island storyline is played out and stale at this point. I'm glad they spent their 5 minutes so we can get to more interesting stories going forward. Another rescue Yara/Theon scene and I will puke.

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    I'm expecting this to be the weakest episode of the season. The flying dragons scene was wack to me but could be the setup for the epic dragon battle we all know is coming. Hopefully they spent more money on the cgi next time around.

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    I thought is was a great episode. It's really impossible to please everybody at this point. If we get reunions we wanted to see, it's padding and fanservice. If we don't, people will ask why the characters didn't interact. If there is world building and setting the pieces, nothing happens. If the plot speeds along, people will call it rushed. D&D know that everybody can't be pleased, and they know that all the people who will watch every episode of the final season. It never fails.

    Also, anybody who agrees with the Northerners being distrustful of Daenerys, is a moron. She doesn't have to be there, Sansa. Why are you acting like a to her when she is trying to help? I can understand Sam being upset about his asshole father and his brother being executed, but why push for a succession crisis right now? Can it wait until after all this is over?

    Oh well, I read the spoilers anyway, and I know this fight so many people crave against Jon and Daenerys isn't going to happen.
    How extensive are these leaked spoilers that I keep hearing about? All of season 8 or just a handful of eps?

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    also, i really dont get the point of jon being the supposed "rightful heir to the throne"

    a) as a recruit and former member of the nights watch, he renounced all les and birthrights. so even if he was the heir, he renounced it by taking the black. end of story
    b) targaryens were booted out of the throne. they can kick and scream all they want, but the seven kingdoms all recognized the legitimacy of the baratheon throne. they recognized that legitimacy full well knowing that viserys targaryen was alive... and he would have been the "rightful heir" as the direct descendant of the previous king. its clear that the "targaryen birthright" no longer means . the seven kingdoms dont recognize them as legitimate rulers any more.
    c) jon has made it clear he doesnt want any of this. he didnt want to be king in the north. he certainly doesnt want to be king of the seven kingdoms. he already believes enough in daenerys to the point where he wouldn't actually stake a claim for it.

    considering C, the only way this has an impact is as follows:

    1) daenerys learns of jon's position, and feeling threatened, turns against him leading to some drama in that direction
    2) daenerys dies, and jon is able to stand in her place as all he followers: unsullied, the dragons, tyrells, greyjoys acknowledge that jon is as good as daenerys was and has the same claim of legitimacy she ever did
    a) He died so his watch ended..
    b) thus the game
    c) smartest thing he's done all series

    1) Jaime is azor ahai and will be king is my prediction.

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    a) He died so his watch ended..
    b) thus the game
    c) smartest thing he's done all series

    1) Jaime is azor ahai and will be king is my prediction.
    Would that even matter though? He renounced his les. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?

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    Would that even matter though? He renounced his les. Lost them. Who says he just “gets them back?” It’s an assumption, not one with any actual rule behind it. You think all of Westeros will think he’s anything other than a deserter?
    I really don't know. I just think he was only able to be named king in da norff due to his watch being ended and all the vows he said being invalid bc you pledge that stuff until death

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    I really don't know. I just think he was only able to be named king in da norff due to his watch being ended and all the vows he said being invalid bc you pledge that stuff until death
    That’s probably how they’ll treat it.

    I just figured by taking your oath you forfeit all les. Even if your watch “ended” you still lost those les but nothing prevents you from gaining new le. Then again doing after your watch ended doesn’t really have precedent

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