Why hasn't the possibility of shutting the WNBA down been addressed?

[GoodOdor]

Wade+Howard vs. the best WNBA team, wade+howard should win pretty easily, no?

[DMC]

Stern is treating the NBA like it's a college, where male and female sports get funded, even if the female sports lose money.

I think a business should run how it's CEO and BoD feels is most profitable for the shareholders, within ethical limits.

I also think that, when the WNBA becomes unattractive to the NBA, they will ditch it. It loses money, sure, but many ad campaigns cost a ton and the return on investment just never comes to fruition. The WNBA could be like that. Either way it's no skin off my nose.

[Stalin]

oh noes..I've been exposed.. I don't know about women's basketball.

Out of curiousity, are any of those russian women's leagues getting subsidized like the wnba?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Stern is treating the NBA like it's a college, where male and female sports get funded, even if the female sports lose money.

Which is another thing that's incredibly stupid. Colleges shouldn't have to give out as many female athletic scholarships as they do male athletic scholarships when male football and male basketball players bring in WAY more money than any other college athlete.

[dunkman]

10+ years in existence isn't an "introduction phase." If the WNBA had any potential for a future, we'd have seen it by now.

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It may be 15 years, but it's still the introduction phase of that product. At first no one even knew about the WNBA, today some players are well known (Sue Bird, Lauren Jackson, Becky Hammon).

Keep in mind that the first phase is seldom profitable. But an enterprise has to have a mix of products, to avoid getting to decline phase, without having something in the growth and maturity phases to generate profits.

IMO, there is no reason if the NBA is a big business already, the WNBA could become important too and there is no reason why women can't play basketball and also the WNBA should be able to sale a lot of merchandise to women.

[DMC]

You would be hard pressed to find anyone on the street who could identify Sue Bird, Becky Hammon or Lauren Jackson. Show Lebron or MJ or Kobe. Even non NBA fans know at least one of them.

[Cessation]

I tried watching wnba games couple of times, within minutes, I felt like cutting myself out of sheer boredom. They are so unathletic. I could compete in the wnba, tbh. Even non women, prefer men's basketball.

[DMC]

I have never, not once in my lifetime, seen anyone wearing a WNBA jersey other than WNBA players.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

>>> Link <<<

It may be 15 years, but it's still the introduction phase of that product. At first no one even knew about the WNBA, today some players are well known (Sue Bird, Lauren Jackson, Becky Hammon).

Keep in mind that the first phase is seldom profitable. But an enterprise has to have a mix of products, to avoid getting to decline phase, without having something in the growth and maturity phases to generate profits.

IMO, there is no reason if the NBA is a big business already, the WNBA could become important too and there is no reason why women can't play basketball and also the WNBA should be able to sale a lot of merchandise to women.

don't lecture me about about enterprises and business you stupid . No successful business has an "introductory non-profit" phase that lasts 15 years. It's not like all businesses have what the WNBA has, a partner league that subsidizes losses every year without the losses every being paid back.

The WNBA will never be profitable. If the WNBA can't currently sell merchandise to women, it never will.

[koriwhat]

shut it down, everyone knows women's bball isn't entertaining anyhow... it's like watch ice melt, grass grow, etc... it's in' boring to no end.

[Nathan89]

I have never, not once in my lifetime, seen anyone wearing a WNBA jersey other than WNBA players.

Me neither.

I have never, not once in my lifetime seen an entire WNBA game. TBH, I doubt I even seen half a game.

[DMC]

I know Laimbeer coached a team, have no idea who was on it. I think they won a le which was printed in Powerpoint.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You probably know that only because I also remember a long undeserving ESPN special about all the great work Laimbeer was doing with the Detroit Shock. A year later the shock went bankrupt and had to move to Tulsa

[Jacob1983]

Have you ever seen how empty the arenas are during WNBA games? I saw some of a SA-NY WNBA game in Newark, NJ and there was like no one siting in the upper deck. Most of the people were sitting on the lower levels. And yes, the NY Liberty played in NJ. The WNBA is a joke and I have no idea why it still exists. I'm not an expert on business but I don't see how that league is making money.
People don't like watching women team sports unless maybe beach volleyball but are you going to tell me that most people enjoy watching softball, women's basketball, and soccer?

[PGDynasty24]

Only women's sports I watch are volleyball and soccer. Other sports are unbearable to watch...

[dunkman]

don't lecture me about about enterprises and business you stupid . No successful business has an "introductory non-profit" phase that lasts 15 years. It's not like all businesses have what the WNBA has, a partner league that subsidizes losses every year without the losses every being paid back.

The WNBA will never be profitable. If the WNBA can't currently sell merchandise to women, it never will.

Actually, your intolerance to ambiguity (in this case a difference of opinion) is a clear sign of stupidity.

The WNBA losses are insignificant. There is a lot of potential. Stern said something that the league would break even in 2009. Keep in mind that if something can't me imagined by you, doesn't mean it will happen never.

Before Bird and Magic joined the NBA the league wasn't what it's today. MJ and finally the NBA-FIBA agreements took that to another level.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

How many WNBA games have you watched in the last 3 years? (here comes a lie)

If the WNBA losses are insignificant, they wouldn't need to NBA to subsidize them. Stern is obviously gonna say things that are borderline delusional about the league he created and insists will be a success. Did they break even in 2009?

The NBA wasn't as popular as it is now before bird and Magic, but it wasn't losing money every single year needing another organization to subsidize its losses.

[jag]

>>> Link <<<

It may be 15 years, but it's still the introduction phase of that product. At first no one even knew about the WNBA, today some players are well known (Sue Bird, Lauren Jackson, Becky Hammon).

Keep in mind that the first phase is seldom profitable. But an enterprise has to have a mix of products, to avoid getting to decline phase, without having something in the growth and maturity phases to generate profits.

IMO, there is no reason if the NBA is a big business already, the WNBA could become important too and there is no reason why women can't play basketball and also the WNBA should be able to sale a lot of merchandise to women.

It always goes back to this. "If men can do it, then so can women. " "Women should be able to play basketball too!"

Women have every right to play whatever sport they like. Women, especially feminists and bull s (and soft-ass men), have decided to interpret no one wanting to watch them play, as men telling them they aren't allowed to play.

If women truly believe they can and should do everything men do, then they should go right on ahead and start a sports league that's financially supported by fans and owners, and isn't reliant on charity.

[jag]

don't lecture me about about enterprises and business you stupid . No successful business has an "introductory non-profit" phase that lasts 15 years.

[Muser]

There isn't a reason why women can't play basketball, they're just not very good at it.

[hater]

agree cannot watch WNBA for more than 30 seconds. It's just grotesque. sorry but that's my opinion.

[dunkman]

@DoK
I watched WNBA just a few times, I watched Olympic games more often. Would add that I would definitely watch a game if my country were to play the gold or something like that. It would a matter of marketing strategies to get the WNBA target audience interested. If available, I would take my daughter to a WNBA game. And if I were to see something very interesting in the WNBA, would watch. In 2009 the US economy was in funk, so I would guess the WNBA probably didn't break even.

@JaG
Look, playing bball is an addiction for me because I feel great playing, not because I want to prove something. I simply love playing bball (and I love to play more than watch). Now, when I want different type of fun I go "hunting" at appropriate places, if you know what I mean. As a curiosity, didn't conduct stats but a lot of attractive feminine looking women are bisexuals nowdays, not sure why.

@Muser
When you watch a game, it looks slow and so. That's an illusion. On the court one could end pissing blood after the game and still look slow from outside. When was 15 used to play against a HS friend that was a female pro player (she was 17 and some 3-4" taller than me). She would win always, so wouldn't bet much on those that talk about playing in the WNBA and being compe ive, unless they play really well.

[DMC]

You probably know that only because I also remember a long undeserving ESPN special about all the great work Laimbeer was doing with the Detroit Shock. A year later the shock went bankrupt and had to move to Tulsa

Quite a shock


/lefty

[DMC]

@DoK
I watched WNBA just a few times, I watched Olympic games more often. Would add that I would definitely watch a game if my country were to play the gold or something like that. It would a matter of marketing strategies to get the WNBA target audience interested. If available, I would take my daughter to a WNBA game. And if I were to see something very interesting in the WNBA, would watch. In 2009 the US economy was in funk, so I would guess the WNBA probably didn't break even.

@JaG
Look, playing bball is an addiction for me because I feel great playing, not because I want to prove something. I simply love playing bball (and I love to play more than watch). Now, when I want different type of fun I go "hunting" at appropriate places, if you know what I mean. As a curiosity, didn't conduct stats but a lot of attractive feminine looking women are bisexuals nowdays, not sure why.

@Muser
When you watch a game, it looks slow and so. That's an illusion. On the court one could end pissing blood after the game and still look slow from outside. When was 15 used to play against a HS friend that was a female pro player (she was 17 and some 3-4" taller than me). She would win always, so wouldn't bet much on those that talk about playing in the WNBA and being compe ive, unless they play really well.

Women are beautiful. Even other women know it.

[DMC]

Actually, your intolerance to ambiguity (in this case a difference of opinion) is a clear sign of stupidity.

The WNBA losses are insignificant. There is a lot of potential. Stern said something that the league would break even in 2009. Keep in mind that if something can't me imagined by you, doesn't mean it will happen never.

Before Bird and Magic joined the NBA the league wasn't what it's today. MJ and finally the NBA-FIBA agreements took that to another level.

USFL

Much more entertaining, much more gone, than WNBA.