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Pistons fans have to answer that question.
Mills Dumars and others put up big numbers, how was Elliott supposed to with those guys taking all of em???
Whottt makes things up and then hides. I wonder how long before he's seen in this thread again.
Pistons fans have to answer that question.
Mills Dumars and others put up big numbers, how was Elliott supposed to with those guys taking all of em???
Right. Did he give back any of the money because of the illness? Why was he playing if he had that serious of an illness?
Did he try to work it out in Detroit? <-----This is why I don't like him.
Zeke managed 8.5 assists/game by passing to everyone EXCEPT Sean.
He averaged 2 less shots in 4 less minutes than the year prior. Sounds about the same number of touches to me...
Did he give back any of the money because of the illness? Why was he playing if he had that serious of an illness?
Are you trying to deny that he had that serious of an illness? It's very well do ented that Elliott was diagnosed that year and went through a lot of different medications while they were trying to figure out what was wrong with him.
First off, why, if he is sick, should he give back any money?Did he give back any of the money because of the illness? Why was he playing if he had that serious of an illness?
Second, he didnt know how SERIOUS it was. IT WAS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE MEDS!!
GOD WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!???!?!?!?!?!?!?
Piston Fan needs to understand that he didn't need to play to have been paid. Of course, if Elliott sat out because of the illness then Piston fan would dump on him for that.
You do realize that players also score by going to the line, no?Did he try to work it out in Detroit?
Zeke managed 8.5 assists/game by passing to everyone EXCEPT Sean.
He averaged 2 less shots in 4 less minutes than the year prior. Sounds about the same number of touches to me...
No, I'm saying that he shouldn't be playing if it affected him that much.
Are you trying to deny that he had that serious of an illness? It's very well do ented that Elliott was diagnosed that year and went through a lot of different medications while they were trying to figure out what was wrong with him.
Had Zeke the trading Guru, not sabotaged Sean's time there, then yeah he probobly wouldve wanted to try and work it out there.Did he try to work it out in Detroit?
Okay so you wanted him to go to the Pistons and then not play at all? Then you all wouldn't hate him?
Okay
He would have still got paid, and then Pistons fans would be saying he faked how seriously ill he was, especially since he played the next season.No, I'm saying that he shouldn't be playing if it affected him that much.
that was the year he found out about the illness... and no, alot of people thought that if he couldnt controll it with meds, he wouldnt be able to play. he was playing because he doesnt quit. he didnt in 99 when it got really bad and he was basically throwing up after games. he had a contract with detroit and he was trying to work it out.
i dont know why zeek didnt like him. probably because they traded rodman and officially the bad-boys were no more. maybe it was the way he saw sean playing not knowing he was sick. in 99 no one knew that the kidney problem was that bad either. he hid it from everyone except steve kerr.
it. I don't care if Piston Fan is pissed that his franchise traded Dennis Rodman for a year's rental of a sick Elliott and Wild Bill Curley.
But if Piston Fan wants to come into our house and talk about Sean Elliott then he shouldn't cry when his arguments are ripped to shreds...
We didn't start this. You guys did.
This thread is amazing because Spurs fans are acting like Elliott wanted to be a Piston...he didn't and he's said so. He said he felt like the world ended the day he found out he got traded...it was the worst day of his NBA career and the day he got traded back to SA was the best.
I've never heard Elliott say one time that he really wanted to make it work and gave it best effort. all I've ever heard him say is that he was miserable and missed SA.....
What I have seen him say when asked about it...Who? Detroit? Never heard of em. He said it last night MOF.
Elliott was our hero...not theirs and I've never seen anything to indicate he had any deisre to make it work in Detroit, kidney problems or not. Only that he wanted out and was miserable about that traded from the day it was announced.
What you guys are doing to these poor Pistons fans borders on sadism...talk about expecting them to take their sandwich and like it...
Look, you guys can rag on Elliott all you want, but when you try to come off like you understand kidney disease, you're making absolute, complete, utter morons of yourselves.
Yes, FSGS and treatment with high-dose glucocorticoid steroid therapy can do exactly what Elliott claims. The usual course of the therapy is about 6-8 months, during which time he probably felt like crap. I'm amazed that anyone could play professional sports at all on that. After that, assuming he went into a partial remission, it wouldn't be surprising at all for him to return to his former level.
I notice no answer for TIMVP's questions.This thread is amazing because Spurs fans are acting like Elliott wanted to be a Piston...he didn't and he's said so. He said he felt like the world ended the day he found out he got traded...it was the worst day of his NBA career and the day he got traded back to SA was the best.
I've never heard Elliott say one time that he really wanted to make it work and gave it best effort. all I've ever heard him say is that he was miserable and missed SA.....
What I have seen him say when asked about it...Who? Detroit? Never heard of em. He said it last night MOF.
Elliott was our hero...not theirs and I've never seen anything to indicate he had any deisre to make it work in Detroit, kidney problems or not. Only that he wanted out and was miserable about that traded from the day it was announced.
What you guys are doing to these poor Pistons fans borders on sadism...talk about expecting them to take their sandwich and like it...
But maybe he is still in Detroit the next season playing like he did in SA.
They traded him because he didn't want to be here. That's weak and any fan of any team doesn't take that too well.
That was his first yr he was diagnoised. Name me a player who has given money back.
Thats totally understandable and you should feel that way.Did he try to work it out in Detroit? <-----This is why I don't like him.
Yes, they've both have admitted that Zeke hated Sean from the get go. What else do you want????Zeke managed 8.5 assists/game by passing to everyone EXCEPT Sean.
whatever man. thats different than saying he was "dogging it" like VC. if you discount the fact that he was sick, and that his production was effected because of it? (no way are you a fan)
you're gonna tell me he didnt have a kidney problem?
dont tell me, tell his brother.
i dont think sean has it in him to dog anything.
What I don't understand is why does anybody even care? It didn't bother me when Bill Lambeer got nothing but hate from the NBA. He was on my team, I liked him, who gives a rat's ass what anybody else thinks?
Besides, once the series is over, the Pistons fans will fade away anyway.
Just for record, I don't feel either way about Elliott. He's not on our team. He left and did well afterward. Good for him. I don't lose sleep over a player that was only here for one season.
ok now thats a better argument. but while you're at it, think about why he didnt like it... sure he liked sa and never wanted the trade... but i think he would have loved detroit and the better pub (eventually) had he not been slapped by zeek and gotten that bad rap on him.
How can you say for sure that he wasn't dogging it? He said he didn't want to come here, hated being here and pushed his way out. But he played his ass off here? Cmon
You're right, but would you want to stay with a team who's leader hates you and makes the whole team hate you???? You can't blame him from wanting to get out.
Actually, Piston Fan did. But you've been gone for the past couple of days.
I am telling you Sean Elliott never wanted to be a Piston, he never wanted to be anything but a San Antonio Spur...and to say otherwise is an insult to Sean Elliott and the intelligence of these Pistons fans...because they know it..and so do we. If he'd been healthy he'd have still wanted out because he loved SA and that's where he wanted to be. Elliott was a Spur not a Piston...that's why his jersey hangs in our gym.
I am pretty sure the Pistons traded Elliott back to the Spurs because it was the best thing for him, his mental state, and his health. And they bit the bullet on that trade.
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