though Garcia won that fight because of the early rounds. It was like that Bradley Provo fight. When they fought, Peterson dominated. When he stepped back and danced, Garcia, who didn't do nothing, was given the rounds because Peyerson really did less. I was pissed because when Pete walked him down, it was easy work. Should have done that earlier. He probably would have gotten him outta there by round ten.
squeaked by Matthysse. Was actually get worked until Matthysse's eye got pregnant. Khan was up in him until that glass jaw got kissed. And Pete just walked him down too late. If he had done it in round four instead of round eight, Garcia woulda been done. I blame that corner.
Look for your boy at the GGG-Monroe fight at the Forum
Tell Kirkland to duck. Canelo got in that ass.
haha, in no way was garcia "getting worked by mattysse". What fight were you watching. I picked garcia to beat mattysse because he does great with guys that stand in front of him(provodnikov, peterson). You don't stand in front of him like a rock em sock em robot, he struggles. Mattyse was walking garcia down, but the problem is, he was getting countered. The game of boxing is to hit and not get hit. Arturo Gatti type of fights are for the non boxing fans. Casual fans. Bandwagon fans. Tagalongs that watch maybe 2 or 3 mega fights a year. I love a good boxing match. Now I aint into Chris byrd in his later years type of stuff, but Chris Byrd during his TNF and BAD days was an interesting guy.
Until Matthysse got his eye swollen by a freak accident he was ahead on everybody's cards and was probably going to win the fight, I think that's what Ashy Larry is trying to say by "getting worked", tbh.
So I'll be in Vegas this weekend--is putting $$ on Golovkin a wise investment or should I just use it gambling instead?
20th strasight KO by Golovkin.
I picked Garcia to win that fight as well and early it wasn't going according to plan per scorecards and my eyes.
Great night of boxing at the Forum.
Last edited by Ashy Larry; 01-31-2016 at 05:05 AM.
always good until some top guy fight him
beaitng another feather fisted opponent that couldn't crack an egg while running until he was caught. After the fight, he continues to call out alvarez and cotto, but avoided Andre Ward like he's herpes. Ward would shut Golovkin out before stopping him.
Golovkin and Ward are avoiding each other for the same reason: Their fight wouldn't generate enough money to risk their records on. Ward already scoffed at the matchup because the money isn't there (said something about it not being a pay per view fight). Besides, he hasn't fought with anyone but his management for over a year. He's gonna fight a tomato can in a couple of months so at least he's active again. One would think they'll have to meet by summer of next year, but this is boxing, so someone will probably find a way to it up.
I think it would be a great fight. I'd love to see Golovkin against someone who is capable of defending himself, and there aren't very many better at that than Andre.
did you say the same thing about SOG after he cleaned out 168? Dude's been at 168 since 2004 (11 years). I mean Hopkins said it best. Before you do move up, completely clean out your division. Ward has had that chance with the Super Six. Golovkin has not. Quillin is safe because of Uncle Al Haymon. Cotto is trying to get big checks and fighting at catch weights. Top 160ers aren't gonna fight this dude. Roach already said he'll try to drain GGG to 55-56 if he fights Cotto for a le limit at 160.
Problem with a fight with Golovkin is Ward would want the big piece of the pie and he's not a draw. Love the dude but there's a reason why all his fights are in Oakland and Indian Casinos. , even the Finals of the Super Six tourney wasn't held in New York at the Garden but at the Boardwalk Hall in Jersey. GGG is selling out wherever he goes even when he's fighting pillow hand opponents. If they fight, SOG can't be the A side.
As as far as stopping Golovkin, lol. SOG has stopped one guy in his last seven fights and Chad Dawson was made to go from 175 to 168 because SOG was the A side. We've seen what a wreck Dawson has been lately. If they met, I'd go with Ward but it's going 12. SOG only have 14 KOs out of 27 fights.
Last edited by Ashy Larry; 05-18-2015 at 09:35 PM.
no. After one of GGG's previous fights, ward said he would meet him, someone relayed the message, and GGG has not called him out since. That fight would be EASY. He'd pick him apart and stop him. Did you see the fight this past saturday? Surely you believe ward is better defensively and hits a of a lot harder than Monroe. While being more accurate. He's gonna continue to clean out the feather fisted comp at 160 though.
I appreciate that you're confident, but the quote I gave you was accurate, and there's a report that Golovkin's camp has actually called out Ward for a fight more recently than that. You can research and counter with competing reports, which is the point: Boxers are self-promoters and liars, so you can never tell for sure what's going on because everyone is making their own version of the story. I've followed boxing for enough years to know that if they aren't getting a fight together, it's because of money vs risk.
I'll reiterate my best guess: Ward's inactivity is the reason he's not getting that fight this year, because the powers in the divisions have already scheduled for the next half a year and he's odd man out. He wasn't going to take a big fight without a tuneup anyway, so blustering about someone ducking him is nonsense. Golovkin's increased popularity has suddenly made that an attractive fight for a guy who hasn't fought in over a year, and made the same fight less attractive for GGG. Not really a surprise.
None of this has to do with how good or bad I think the fighters are, and I think Ward is excellent. Yes, I saw the fight, and Golovkin's defense looked really good until Monroe started to stand in the middle and throw with him. Don't know if that was loss of focus or a legitimate problem going forward, but he got marked up by a guy that didn't have a lot of bad intentions on the end of his punches. Ward is a great boxer, but I can't say for sure that he has more punching power than Monroe. He's not exactly known for knocking guys out. He's a bit bigger than GGG, but I don't know that it's a big enough difference for him to suddenly have dangerous power.
If Ward believed it was as easy a fight as you do, he'd been in favor of it over a year ago when there might have been a chance to set it up. This is his second long layoff, and he's gonna need to do something more than talk to get himself back into the big-money fights.
did you see the interview saturday when Max mentioned Ward how soft spoken GGG got? I thought for sure boxing fans(and i use that term loosley) would have learned their lesson after 2 weeks ago. GGG is being propped up in the ring against guys that can't hurt him and that he can walk thru to get the easy knockouts. That Monroe fight went exactly as I called it. He was gonna have a plan until he felt that power and then he was gonna run until the ko happened. What shocked me is that he actually stood and fought for a few rounds before the ko but he coulnd't hurt GGG , but he had him tired. If you don't believe Ward has more power and accuracy than Monroe, then our conversation is pointless. Ward has fought fighters like GGG(better fighters), ggg has NEVER fought anyone like ward. GGG is edison miranda with a better chin.
but he got marked up by a guy that didn't have a lot of bad intentions on the end of his punches. Ward is a great boxer, but I can't say for sure that he has more punching power than MonroeEven if you had never seen Monroe fight(and I had), the fact he had 6 kos in 19 fights should have told you SOMETHING!! Like Chris Algeri. He's now the official punching bag of the welterweight division. Guys will be using him as tune up fights for bigger events just because he got a bs decision against Provodnikov.
pretty much on point. Why in the would he fight a guy who barely fills up seats and would want the lion share of the money? That's crazy and bad business if you're Golovkin when it comes to a fight with Ward. As far as GGG's defense, sitting there live, my boy leaned over and said, he doesn't fear his power. First round, plenty of head movement. Second round, felt him, dropped him, then walked him down. He's not gonna go into a fight with Ward using the same tactics.
edison Miranda? You mean the guy who went 12 with SOG but doesn't have a better chin than GGG, yet, Ward is gonna stop Golovkin? Riiiiiiight. once again, did you give the same venom to SOG once he cleaned out 168 but still in the same division for 11 years now? Boxing is a big business. You're not gonna train two month, bring 12,000 people to an arena so you can give someone who's barely drawing five thousand the majority of the money. That makes zero sense.did you see the interview saturday when Max mentioned Ward how soft spoken GGG got? I thought for sure boxing fans(and i use that term loosley) would have learned their lesson after 2 weeks ago. GGG is being propped up in the ring against guys that can't hurt him and that he can walk thru to get the easy knockouts. That Monroe fight went exactly as I called it. He was gonna have a plan until he felt that power and then he was gonna run until the ko happened. What shocked me is that he actually stood and fought for a few rounds before the ko but he coulnd't hurt GGG , but he had him tired. If you don't believe Ward has more power and accuracy than Monroe, then our conversation is pointless. Ward has fought fighters like GGG(better fighters), ggg has NEVER fought anyone like ward. GGG is edison miranda with a better chin.
here are are his options. Fight Cotto in New York. Huge buzz. Big money.
Fight Canelo somehwere close to The Mexican border. Huge buzz. Big money.
Or fight SOG in California, decent money. Funny thing about that is GGG draws more in Ward's own state.
I don't think ward would stop ggg off his chin, but stamina. sorta like how ali ko'd foreman. Foreman was exhausted. By the 4th round saturday, GGG was tired as if he had worked an 8 hour day. I aint denying that GGG draws more than ward. I aint denying that he has bigger money options, but saying that Ward is ducking GGG is laughable. The only person ducking him in cotto who I feel GGG would ko with ease.
As for ward staying n the same division, hopkins statyed at mw for 16 years after his debut at 175. Hagler was 160 his whole career. Ward would make golovkin look stupid with ease. HBO has a way with fooling the public that their fighters are dominant while putting them in with overmatched opponents. We've seen it 2 weeks in a row with alvarez and ggg and we'll be seeing it soon with Cotto/Geale.
So if Hopkins has been a 160er for damn near ever and Ward has been a 168er for 11 years, why can't Golovkin be a 160er for the same amount of time? Hopkins stayed at 160 because 160 was loaded and 154 was loaded. Really good compe ion for him at that time and the money was right because Oscar was coming. And those who are saying Ward is ducking Golovkin don't know anything. Ego and dollars will keep that fight from happening.
And its not like Golovkin is fighting comp. Macklin, Geale, Stevens and Murray were/are all ten 160ers when they face Golovkin. It's not dude's fault the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man won't get in the ring with him. , he beat Rubio for a WBC Interim belt just to unify the les. Something Ward, Hopkins and Hagler all got to do.
GGG can be a mw for the rest of his career, i dont' have a problem with it, i just got a problem with calling someone out, when that person responds to u adn ACCEPTS YOUR CHALLENGE(and we all saw it live on hbo), then you sign on to fight more feather fisted compe ion and continue to call out jms. That's my problem. He can clean out 160 and i aint got a problem with it, but don't call someone out and when they accept your challenge, you back away from it. Sorta like how GGG's camp are talking about Kovalev is afraid of GGG. If they want to make that fight happen, it can be made. His camp and fans are full of . Understand where i'm coming from? He can retire at 160 and that's not a knock on him from me, just stop calling mfs out for attentin knowing damn well you don't want to get in the ring with them. Mayweather did the same thing with Wright. When they were being interviewed after a fight on hbo, floyd said he'd like to move up and fight wright. Wright was sitting beside him and accepted the challenge, floyd said nothing else about it.
then you're gonna have a lot of problems with a lot of fighters because they all call each other out and don't fight one another, including SOG.
Wilder defends his le against Molina tonight in his first le defense. Anybody watching this?
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