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Who said it was anything about "feeling better"? I mean, I don't "feel better" for being an atheist anymore so than I "feel better" for liking Pepsi over Coke.
how about atheists who marry catholics and force to have a church ceremony or turn to catholic, but never goes to church on sundays after it....lmao@friends....
Who said it was anything about "feeling better"? I mean, I don't "feel better" for being an atheist anymore so than I "feel better" for liking Pepsi over Coke.
What do multiverses have to do with systems of morality?
RG did. Which is why I asked him to explain what he meant by it.
Everything! We do live in this Universe, o! But where does morality come from? And why do you'll Atheists follow it?(Im neither, so don't bother to label me. I don't give a ! God/religion and Atheists to) I would just go anarchy in this ass universe. We are just walking information of energy like you said that's starting again in a black hole in another dimension.
I live in a house, but I don't think that reflects on my moral framework either.
And technically, you can't be "neither". You either have faith (theist) or you don't (atheist). You either have knowledge (gnostic) or you don't (agnostic).
Atheists follow morality due to various reasons. It's a good way to live in society, it's instilled by our parents, it feels like the "right" thing to do, etc etc.
(Oh, and DR mentioned the black hole thing.
Ah, mea culpa. Rereading his comment, I assume he meant he felt better because he wasn't telling people he was a Catholic/Christian when deep inside his heart he didn't feel religious. Not necessarily feeling better for being an atheist, but for being true to his own beliefs.
Everyone has faith even if they don't admit it. Everyone is agnostic even if they don't admit it.
faith in what?
So everyone is an agnostic theist? lol
What sort of faith do I have? Do tell because I missed the memo.
I think you just mistyped but......Agnosticism doesn't delve into whether or not you actually possess knowledge, rather it describes one's belief that said knowledge is possible/impossible.
Yeah, hair-splitting.....but an important distinction methinks. Else we are all, by definition, agnostic as Snakeboy stated.
Yes, that's a more correct way to say it. I usually just simplify it, since the idea that one can be an agnostic atheist is enough to throw people.
Disagree. I've known Calvinists who were pretty gnostic, and I myself wouldn't say I have anything that I'd define as "faith". Maybe if you watered the word down quite a bit, but then it'd be a near useless term.
It's quite scary to think of all the people who only behave in a moral/ethical manner because they believe in God.
Yes, that's a more correct way to say it. I usually just simplify it, since the idea that one can be an agnostic atheist is enough to throw people.
I think the argument can be made that our notions of morality are rooted in various religious beliefs/practices/mores.I live in a house, but I don't think that reflects on my moral framework either.
And technically, you can't be "neither". You either have faith (theist) or you don't (atheist). You either have knowledge (gnostic) or you don't (agnostic).
Atheists follow morality due to various reasons. It's a good way to live in society, it's instilled by our parents, it feels like the "right" thing to do, etc etc.
(Oh, and DR mentioned the black hole thing.
Many people are taught the Christian thing through their parents. Parents or whatever setting we were raised in set our behavioral standards to a very high degree. I think people get confused about the two.
There are many means to social control. Empirical behavior is learned. What types of actions result in positive or negative feedback. There are a whole slew of cliches about it. Boy who cried wolf, once bitten twice shy, and pavlov's dogs.
If you think God is the only thing holding you back you are either a sociopath or have no idea of your surroundings which is either deluded or psychopathic.
Self control being a virtue does not need to be mandated by God. It is not for me.
I would argue otherwise, that a system of morality must rise up as people cohabitate, to sustain the existence of society. Otherwise, why would various religions tend to the same basic tenets of morality?
who originally came up with the various religious beliefs/practices/mores?
Presumably, a deity.
That's kinda a weird thing to think about actually. Like, God is just chilling outside at his barbeque, thinking, "Damn this cow smells GREAT on the grill! Maybe I'll make some cows with arms and brains who can grill themselves. I don't see why more of this delicious burning scent could ever be a bad thing!"Presumably, a deity.
If you read Leviticus and Deuteronomy with the idea that quite a bit of the mandates were about setting up a permanent barbeque for the priest class it starts making a lot of sense.
Im gonna look into this priest gig. Free steak ftw.
Yeah, but you can forget about pork ribs, sausage and bacon
Ancient Alien Theorist believe that Aliens changed our whole genome (when we where hairy apes) and gave us the ten commandments, which the majority of our moral values descend from.
Sumerian historical literature can be translated to mean that as well.
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