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    hasta la victoria, siempre cheguevara's Avatar
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    I am not sure I understand. Basically the change will allow Google to share the user's data across services. Sounds fine so far.

    But how does that help me in the end. I understand it will help Google sell me services. But gain, how does that HELP ME?

    let's say my email contains a lot of crap related to boy bands. (hypothetical scenario)

    so thanks to this google service, next time I search for "music" it will show first a bunch of boy band . with a bunch of ads about boy bands, directions to boy band clubs and maybe even some ads for anal dildos.

    How the does that help me? I was looking for music, not this ing .

    Do you see where I'm going? How does this help the user do better searches, when the results are going to be more filtered and user will see smaller scope of what is really out there at the top??

    So basically Google is saying, if you are a got, you will receive got ass results at the top.

    Again, I understand this helps Google make more money, but HOW DOES THAT HELP ME????

    google. They are basically compartmentalizing the internet users in order to make a buck.

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    its advertising. facebook does the same crap. illl message someone about getting some tacos, and the next thing i know my web page borders are filled with taco stand advertisements.

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    So it doesn't help the users right?

    Scary thing is with Android phones. The phone's GPS could be used by Google for ads. SO if I hang out in the Red Light District, will I get ads for porn on my work computer?

    ing bull . I might have to consider a Windows phone...

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    this is a much better place to post this than the cut ties with google thread:

    http://lifehacker.com/5878900/google...oogle-goes-bad

    twitter is obnoxious, but i think it may be the least intrusive of the social networks after all...

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    They want to stop the anonymous browsing of the internet. Every person on the internet will be required to provide authentication.

    Next on the table is they will disable anonymous(logout) use of Google services. You will have to log in to use it. Google will be so embedded on the internet that it will be imposible to avoid. Their excuse will be for "security reasons."

    El Che predicts this to happen sometime in the next 2-3 years.

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    The Dark Knight Rises


    It'S gonna happen

    Social uprising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    There are other alternatives outthere


    YOU google

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    this privacy change is being reviewed by governments in Europe.

    mmm, wonder why the US didn't decide to review it at least...

    Google Overtakes Microsoft in Federal Lobbying Spend

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engi...-Spend-528388/

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    this privacy change is being reviewed by governments in Europe.

    mmm, wonder why the US didn't decide to review it at least...

    Google Overtakes Microsoft in Federal Lobbying Spend

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engi...-Spend-528388/
    Google Asks NSA to Help Secure Its Network


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    Google is teaming up with the National Security Agency to investigate the recent hack attack against its network in a bid to prevent another assault, according to The Washington Post.
    The internet search giant is working on an agreement with the controversial agency to determine the attacker’s methods and what Google can do to shore up its network.
    Sources assured the Post that the deal does not mean the NSA will have access to users’ searches or e-mail communications and accounts. Nor will Google share proprietary data with the agency.
    But the move is raising concerns among privacy and civil rights advocates.
    The Electronic Privacy Information Center filed a Freedom of Information Act request on Thursday, shortly after the agreement was made public, seeking more information about the arrangement (.pdf).
    Executive Director Marc Rotenberg believes the agreement covers much more than the Google hack and that the search giant and intelligence agency were in talks prior to Google discovering that it had been hacked.
    “What they’ve told you is that this is about an investigation of a hack involving China,” he told Threat Level in a phone interview. “I think and have good reason to believe that there’s a lot more going on.”
    Google declined to comment.
    “At the time [of the hack announcement], we said we are working with the relevant US authorities, but we don’t have any comment beyond that,” wrote spokesman Jay Nancarrow in an e-mail.
    The FOIA request also seeks NSA communications with Google regarding Google’s failure to encrypt Gmail and cloud computing services. Rotenberg says EPIC wants to know what role the NSA has played in shaping privacy and security standards for Google’s services.
    EPIC also filed a lawsuit against the NSA and the National Security Council, seeking a key do ent governing the government’s broader national cybersecurity policy, which has been shrouded in secrecy.
    “We can’t afford to have secret cybersecurity policy that impacts the privacy rights of millions of internet users,” he said.
    Google announced earlier this month that it had been the target of a “highly sophisticated” and coordinated hack attack, since dubbed Operation Aurora, against its network and other companies in the defense, technology and finance industries. Google said the hackers had stolen intellectual property — presumed to be its source code — and sought access to the Gmail accounts of human rights activists. The attack originated from China, the company said.
    Computer security firm iDefense has said that 34 companies were targeted by the attackers, who were primarily after source code.
    A recent report has provided details into the nature of the persistent espionage attack that mirrored attacks on thousands of companies over the last few years, which have largely gone unpublicized.
    The agreement between Google and the NSA, still being finalized, would allow Google to share critical information with the NSA about the attacks and its network — such as the malicious code that was used and its network configurations — without violating Google’s policies or laws that protect the privacy of users’ communications, the sources say.
    The NSA’s general counsel began drafting the cooperative research and development agreement the day that Google announced it had been hacked, according to The Wall Street Journal. The agreement was finalized within 24 hours, but the information sharing at that time was limited, and only allowed the NSA to examine some of the data related to the hack. Most of the data that was shared concerned the nature of the data that was stolen, the paper said. Both the FBI and NSA worked directly with Google on the investigation.
    The agreement between Google and the NSA would reportedly be the first time Google entered into such a formal information-sharing relationship — apart from its general cooperation with subpoenas and national security letters.
    Matthew Aid, NSA historian and author of The Secret Sentry, said the move troubled him.
    “I’m a little uncomfortable with Google cooperating this closely with the nation’s largest intelligence agency, even if it’s strictly for defensive purposes,” he told the Post.
    The NSA has been embroiled since 2005 in allegations that the agency violated federal laws in conducting illegal surveillance of Americans’ phone and internet communications. Giving the agency authority over coordination of the government’s cybersecurity plan — which would include working with telecoms and other critical companies in the private sector — could put the agency in the position of surrep iously monitoring communications.
    Last year Director of National Intelligence Admiral Dennis Blair raised a ruckus when he told the House intelligence committee that the NSA, rather than the Department of Homeland Security which currently oversees cybersecurity for the government, should be in charge of securing cyberspace for government and critical infrastructures.
    “The National Security Agency has the greatest repository of cybertalent,” Blair said. “[T]here are some wizards out there at Fort Meade who can do stuff.”
    NSA Director Lt. Gen. Keith Alexander later balked at claims that his agency wanted to control the government’s cybersecurity plan and said it wanted to partner with DHS and others in securing networks. Speaking at the RSA Security Conference in San Francisco, he told the audience of security professionals that the NSA does “not want to run cybersecurity for the United States government.”
    This week Blair, commenting on the Google hack, said cyberspace could not be secured without a “collaborative effort that incorporates both the U.S. private sector and our international partners.”
    “As part of its information-assurance mission,” NSA spokeswoman Judi Emmel told the Post, “NSA works with a broad range of commercial partners and research associates to ensure the availability of secure tailored solutions for Department of Defense and national security systems customers.”

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    this privacy change is being reviewed by governments in Europe.

    mmm, wonder why the US didn't decide to review it at least...

    Google Overtakes Microsoft in Federal Lobbying Spend

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engi...-Spend-528388/
    if they are throwing money and their public support behind helping stop SOPA/PIPA and the like I have no problem with it, but I doubt it's that simple

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    if they are throwing money and their public support behind helping stop SOPA/PIPA and the like I have no problem with it, but I doubt it's that simple
    LOL you really think Google is against SOPA to protect the internet freedom?? They are protecting their assets nothing else. Youtube for instance would be history.

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    Bookmarkthis :

    http://www.dataliberation.org/

    If you want to move your data out of all Google products

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    LOL you really think Google is against SOPA to protect the internet freedom?? They are protecting their assets nothing else. Youtube for instance would be history.
    isn't youtube a net loss for them? also, I meant if the reason for them surpassing MS in lobbying is due to that I see little problem with it, sorry

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    Both Android and Chrome send data to Google even in the absence of any user interaction
    https://digitalcontentnext.org/wp-co...tion-Paper.pdf

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