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Watching this here thunder team,you can add Durrant/Westbrook. I expect big things for them
There have been some pretty good duos of players who weren't necessarily considered the unquestioned #1 on their team throughout the history of the NBA. To list some of the more well known ones...
Shaq/Kobe (stfu if you are going to whine "kobe is NOT a #1
Magic/Kareem (early years)
Lebron/Wade
Pierce/Garnett
Kareem/Oscar
Stockton/Malone
Erving/Malone
T-Mac/Yao
Dirk/Nash
Mourning/Hardaway
Nash/Amare
Payton/Kemp
IMO, these are generally duos that both were about on par with each other in terms of importance to their team. If you could choose one of those duos (or name your own as I'm sure there are plenty I've missed) to build around with both players being in their primes, who would you take, and why?
Honestly, I find it hard to pick against Shaq and Kobe, although I would love to see a duo of Garnett and Pierce in their primes playing together...
Watching this here thunder team,you can add Durrant/Westbrook. I expect big things for them
duncan/manu
we got like 1 year of healthy prime manu
Westbrook is underrated. I know that sounds re ed, but he is. Watching the FB he ran wit the bounce pass to Harden then the oop to KD was a thing of beauty
Kareem was 1a early in Magic's career
Yeah, I thought about them, although IMO Durant is MUCH more important to the teams success than Westbrook.
Right now, but the rate Westbrook is developing he will be at that level in under two years
And these clearly no issue between kd and Westbrook. I would guess they're prett close and can get away with being chippy with one another, but watching them play, they're on the same wavelength
go look at your list again, almost all of them were a small guy and a big for a reason. If Durant had a dominant big the league would be ed
IMO Westbrook is so incredibly flawed in the halfcourt game. He either needs a defensive breakdown to score, or has to be hitting his jumpshot. Against elite teams, that simply will not work. He's as good as any player in the NBA on the fastbreak, but that only works so much come playoff time.
Shaq/Kobe.
Didn't see Oscar/Kareem but my guess they were the best on paper.There have been some pretty good duos of players who weren't necessarily considered the unquestioned #1 on their team throughout the history of the NBA. To list some of the more well known ones...
Shaq/Kobe (stfu if you are going to whine "kobe is NOT a #1
Magic/Kareem (early years)
Lebron/Wade
Pierce/Garnett
Kareem/Oscar
Stockton/Malone
Erving/Malone
T-Mac/Yao
Dirk/Nash
Mourning/Hardaway
Nash/Amare
Payton/Kemp
IMO, these are generally duos that both were about on par with each other in terms of importance to their team. If you could choose one of those duos (or name your own as I'm sure there are plenty I've missed) to build around with both players being in their primes, who would you take, and why?
Honestly, I find it hard to pick against Shaq and Kobe, although I would love to see a duo of Garnett and Pierce in their primes playing together...
Kareem and Magic were the best I have seen even better than Kobe and Shaq. It's close, but by the time Kobe started hitting his prime their issues were starting to bubble over. Hard for me to pick any of these other duos since they didnt win rings. As far as one and done duos I like Pierce/KG, Hakeem/Clyde over Moses/Erving. Dr.J's best days were long gone by 1983 inho ...(i know Clyde was old too) but Hakeem made up for it and Drexler wanted that ring bad.
Yeah I don't think they have that much of an issue with each other. Most duos have their times where they get pissed with each other. It's just part of basketball. What matters is how they respond on the court, and they generally respond well. They just both are not great half-court players.
If he develops a consistent jumpshot, he might end up being the best scoring-PG in the league. But considering how poor his mechanics currently are on his jumper, I can't see him ever being able to do much more than just hit the open jumpers, which isnt going to help him much once his athletic ability fades.
INot saying they were the best but I loved GP and Kemp. What a waste that Kemp let himself get fat. His Finals against the Bulls and Rodman is very under rated. Many thought rodman was a GOAT defender but Kemp owned him.
Can't argue with this. Heck, you have to wonder what would have happened if the Thunder ended up getting Tyson Chandler a couple years back...
Kemp got fat in Cleveland
the Sonics for getting rid of him for that pussy Vin Baker
And yes, 1 on 1 Kemp bukkaked Rodman
I LOVED watching this duo too. Kemp was such a monster.
It just seems like all great defenders have certain guys that just seem to match up well with them. I always remember seeing Bruce Bowen do work against so many elite SG/SFs throughout the league, but for some reason, Josh Howard (before he turned re ed) would consistently find ways to get his against the Spurs, without having to force a bunch of tough shots either, the way Kobe and Rayray and VC would have to against Bowen.
IIRC Penny Hardaway used to murder MJ too.
Yup
Virtually nobody was able to stop a young Duncan, but PJ Brown had his number.
And Penny used to murder both MJ and Pippen
he got real fat in cleveland but his decline started with his contract squabbles in Seattle. He was underpaid, but he let that affect his play. Once he got the dough he started to eat too much of the fried dough with powder and sprinkles.
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I did not start following the NBA closely until 1995. Of the 1a/1b combos I have seen since then Shaq and Kobe are the best. Their true potential and the team's true potential showed in the 2001 playoffs went they went 12-1. They were unstoppable. Kareem and Oscar and Kareem and Magic would be others I would think might be at the top, but all I have to go by on them are stats. I believe Oscar was near the end of his career when he played with Kareem.
[QUOTE=mercos;5610333]I did not start following the NBA closely until 1995. Of the 1a/1b combos I have seen since then Shaq and Kobe are the best. Their true potential and the team's true potential showed in the 2001 playoffs went they went 12-1. They were unstoppable. Kareem and Oscar and Kareem and Magic would be others I would think might be at the top, but all I have to go by on them are stats. I believe Oscar was near the end of his career when he played with Kareem.[/QUOTE]
Great point and Kareem was amazing but not in his prime yet, so if that is the case I feel more confident with Shaq/Kobe.
Shaq & Kobe vs Magic & Kareem is hard to say. Shaq was hands down unarguable and Kobe was a scoring machine. In 2001, nobody could do against that team, it took AI everything he had just to squeeze one game and avoid a complete sweep.
Although, you have Kareem & Magic who were perfect for each other. They just seemed to do everything right, sans Magic's notable brain fart. You have a scoring machine in Kareem and a bonafied leader who made his teammates better in Magic. That coupled with Magic's sheer versatility made the combination extremely hard to contend with.
tough call
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