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    Why would the photo change any claims in the affidavit?
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    I think the point being made is not that Zimmerman's injuries are news but that it would be news if -- with the graphic photograph being released now -- the prosecution had possession of that photograph, it would be unethical and quite possibly, perjury by exclusion, for the prosecutor not the raise the existence of Zimmerman's injuries in the affidavit.
    Why?
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    The prosecution certainly had the picture/video everyone saw with Zimmerman's head injuries in the police station. I'm pretty sure that picture is in this very same thread somewhere.
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    I don't troll. everything I type is from the heart. yes I want the coward zimmerman either in jail/prison or to die.
    Don't hold me to this, because I only think it is true from the evidence released so far.

    I think this will haunt Zimmerman for the rest of his life. I think Martin would have been in trouble with the law for assault or even dead at some future date had this not happened.

    Justice and revenge are two different things. Why is this personal? Think about what you are saying. Are your tendencies such that you might pick a fight at some future day with someone who carries concealed?

    I'm not sure what to think of Zimmerman. Coward? probably not, but could be. I think he got more than he bargained for and panicked. I think Martin was the aggressor, and was going to show Zimmerman he was the .

    How do you explain the things that have come to light? The pattern of Martin's gold teeth indicate to me he was in some pretty good street brawls. His revealed Facebook (or was it twitter) accounts show him with a gangster thug type at ude.
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    The prosecutor didn't have this video:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...2#.T5HB4lqgToA

    when it filed the affidavit?
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    Don't you know...

    The prosecution will claim "photoshop."

    I'm surprised I didn't see anyone here say that yet.
    Bou already did.
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    Really?
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    Yeah, claimed the blood was too red to be real.
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    The prosecutor didn't have this video:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...2#.T5HB4lqgToA

    when it filed the affidavit?
    You would think so.

    But, even after that video was released publicly there was argument over whether or not it actually showed injuries.

    In the story you linked:

    But the video does show what could be an injury to the back of Zimmerman's head.
    "...what could be..." Not exactly a declaration of certainty.

    But, to the point, there is no reason for the prosecution to not have access to the photo being released today. That's the crux of the matter. If she did and made no mention of it in the affidavit -- other legal professionals have said that's unethical.

    Don't argue with us; argue with Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz.
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    Why would the photo change any claims in the affidavit?
    Ummm.... because the affidavit is REQUIRED to inlude any exculpatory evidence held by the prosecution?

    Not sure if serious.
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    Don't hold me to this, because I only think it is true from the evidence released so far.

    I think this will haunt Zimmerman for the rest of his life. I think Martin would have been in trouble with the law for assault or even dead at some future date had this not happened.

    Justice and revenge are two different things. Why is this personal? Think about what you are saying. Are your tendencies such that you might pick a fight at some future day with someone who carries concealed?

    I'm not sure what to think of Zimmerman. Coward? probably not, but could be. I think he got more than he bargained for and panicked. I think Martin was the aggressor, and was going to show Zimmerman he was the .

    How do you explain the things that have come to light? The pattern of Martin's gold teeth indicate to me he was in some pretty good street brawls. His revealed Facebook (or was it twitter) accounts show him with a gangster thug type at ude.


    Most kids Trayvon's age, regardless of race, who are from the area he is from try to mimic that "thug" image. Same way some white kids go through an emo-goth stage. Should we judge them for that?

    I know I'm coming off irrational but honestly I just feel that this guy is going to get off and its crazy how people are justifying it. We don't know the truth of what went on that night but in my opinion it all boils down to the choices Zimmerman made, not the other way around.
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    OK...

    It doesn't surprise me I missed it. I catch myself automatically skipping some of his posts. Just not worth the time usually.
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    But, to the point, there is no reason for the prosecution to not have access to the photo being released today. That's the crux of the matter. If she did and made no mention of it in the affidavit -- other legal professionals have said that's unethical.

    Don't argue with us; argue with Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz.
    Apparently, Alan Dershowitz needs to argue it with the judge in the case who thought nothing wrong of the affidavit.

    Furthermore, apparently Dershowitz doesn't even really know if the prosecutors had that picture.
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    Yeah, claimed the blood was too red to be real.
    Oh, I did see that.

    I just chalked it off as another uneducated assumption.
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    Ummm.... because the affidavit is REQUIRED to inlude any exculpatory evidence held by the prosecution?

    Not sure if serious.
    How would the picture be exculpatory?
    The affidavit says a "struggle ensued" and Martin was shot and killed. It doesn't say there were no injuries.
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    old blood ain't that red.

    If it were fresh blood, ok.
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    Ummm.... because the affidavit is REQUIRED to inlude any exculpatory evidence held by the prosecution?

    Not sure if serious.
    Since I don't know that aspect of law, I could be wrong, but if what you say is correct, that appears to be a serious violation to me.
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    Does it really surprise you that people other than yourself lie?
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    Ummm.... because the affidavit is REQUIRED to inlude any exculpatory evidence held by the prosecution?

    Not sure if serious.
    What legal background if any do you have?
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    The prosecution certainly had the picture/video everyone saw with Zimmerman's head injuries in the police station. I'm pretty sure that picture is in this very same thread somewhere.
    But it wasn't included in the affidavit which is what dershawitz was saying was unethical and possibly illegal.
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    What legal background if any do you have?
    Quote: Alan Dershowitz previously posted

    , “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie."
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    Most kids Trayvon's age, regardless of race, who are from the area he is from try to mimic that "thug" image. Same way some white kids go through an emo-goth stage. Should we judge them for that?
    Yes, that would fit what I see on a daily basis. Are you suggesting that it makes it OK to attack someone?
    I know I'm coming off irrational but honestly I just feel that this guy is going to get off and its crazy how people are justifying it. We don't know the truth of what went on that night but in my opinion it all boils down to the choices Zimmerman made, not the other way around.
    Not irrational, we just disagree on some things. Real early on, and I'm not going to look for the post, I said something to the effect that Zimmerman was probably scared less, and it probably took him time to remember he had the means to stop being hit. I also pointed out that under similar cir stances, if I was carrying, and the events unfolded as they appear to have, that I would have killed Martin. I would have shot someone under the same situation, if I was held to the ground, being hit, and had no other means of stopping it.

    As for a choice? How many of us make rational decisions under intense pressure?
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    old blood ain't that red.

    If it were fresh blood, ok.
    It says it was taken at the scene of the crime, you damn loon.
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    Try to keep up, fuzzy.
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    But it wasn't included in the affidavit which is what dershawitz was saying was unethical and possibly illegal.
    Thus my question is how does this picture changes anything, since the prior video was already public knowledge?
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