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As far as I know, there's been nothing said about whether or not the gun was visible. If Florida's CHL laws are similar to Texas, the gun is supposed to be concealed -- hence the "C" in CHL.
We don't know when Zimmerman first drew his weapon but, by all indications, so far, it wasn't until the moment before he shot Martin.
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I think the law in this case is crap.
I guess my question can be rephrased as:
Why wasn't Alan Dershowitz all over the "perjury by exclusion" claim when the affidavit appeared? The picture merely reaffirms what was already known by the police video.
http://www.south-floridaattorney.com...ry-in-florida/
You going to apologize, counselor?
You're right. Never in the history of man has a person subdued someone with a gun.
Your anger is adorable though.
and why would Trayvon run? if he did zimmerman probably would have unloaded the entire clip in him. Trayvon was destined to die that night no matter what.
I hope you have better luck with that fuzzbot than I have.
But, according to the 911 call, he did run.
The question needs to be, when did he stop and allow Zimmerman to catch up with him because, there's no evidence in the 911 call that Zimmerman was trying to catch Martin. I listened and I can tell you, he isn't in a full run -- maybe a fast walk or jog.
But, after the dispatcher says "you don't need to do that," even the impression he's walking fast stops.
Those are my impressions. But, in any case, there's no indication that Zimmerman had his gun out or even exposed until the moment he shot Martin and, there's no indication Zimmerman continued to follow/pursue Martin. At least, no more evidence than there is that Martin came back to Zimmerman.
After all, we know they ended up in an encounter so, one or the other has to be true.
A third option is that they accidentally encountered each other, unexpectedly after both figured the incident was over and relaxed.
And the police report which Yoni was nice enough to link for us.
Again, he did run and that didn't happen.
That doesn't mean Zimmerman committed an illegal act.
He didn't run when they were face to face. He ran when he saw zimmerman from a distance.
I'm inclined to believe that if Trayvon would have taken off running when they stood toe to toe, he would have gotten shot in the back multiple times.
Why?
And, I disagree with Wild Cobra that Zimmerman necessarily made any back choices.
George Zimmerman observed a su ious person in a neighborhood experience a rash of property crimes. He reported the su ious person and worked to keep him in sight until police arrived.
The only bad choice after that would be if Zimmerman is the one that provoked Martin when they finally encountered one another and there's no evidence to support that.
If it went down the way I have suggested, Zimmerman did nothing wrong.
He was legally carrying a weapon.
He was legally in the community.
He was justifiably concerned about the su ious person (walking through the neighborhood in the rain and seeming to be looking at houses).
And, if Martin was banging his head against the sidewalk to the point he feared for his life or thought he might suffer serious injury, it was the right choice to end the assault by shooting Martin.
I think it was unfortunate. I think it was a tragedy. I think Zimmerman regrets the outcome and probably even wishes he'd never seen Trayvon Martin walking down the sidewalk that evening. But, I don't think the choices Zimmerman made were bad.
your legal prowess is stunningly brilliant
this...i have every right to check out a su ious guy ESPECIALLY if im part of neighborhood watch.
So, how did Zimmerman catch up with him while talking on the phone with police?
Based on what are you inclined to believe that? And, how did they get to a position of standing toe-to-toe to begin with? Martin took off running while Zimmerman was still at he vehicle talking on the phone. There is no indication in the call that Zimmerman ever saw Martin again after he lost sight of him.
When did he catch up with him?
You don't even have to be a part of neighborhood watch.
If I saw a su ious person, I didn't recognize, walking around my neighborhood and we had been experiencing a rash of burglaries. I would have done precisely what George Zimmerman did.
Well it appears VlE has gone and GSH isn't going to apologize. that coupled with people trying to argue the case with supposition and no new facts I am bowing out of this thread for now.
Have fun guys. i just don't like making up bull in cases like this.
He's got a hoodie! Where's my gun!?!
If that was the case, id assume zimmerman would have just unloaded a clip before even an altercation.
and has every right too.
why wouldn't he be able to catch up, he was in his daddie's truck.
His history of violence on his own wife and law enforcement. THis dude fought a cop, doesn't listen to 911 operators, he has no regard for the law.
They began to stand toe to toe because zimmerman drove down the block, followed him then approached him, trayvon fought for his life and zimmerman murdered him.
How long was that phone call?
Of course you would have. We have come to expect nothing less from you.
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