I don't see where he is blaming Zimmerman for Martin not calling.
All Zimmerman did was shoot him dead.
If the report redacted "white" from the suspect descriptions, that is obviously indicative of having an agenda.
However, if what you meant by your last statement is that due to the fact that blacks commit more crimes than white, it is a solid rationale for why most of Zimmerman's calls would be about black people, I completely disagree.
The reason being is that the implication in that conclusion is that the bulk of Zimmerman's 911 calls ended up being about actual criminal activity instead of about activity where he was just being paranoid or overly su ious.
If the vast majority of Zimmerman's calls did not end up being observations of actual criminal activity, then the ratio of his black: white calls should be very in line with the demograhpics of neighborhood citizens, not in line with demographics of area criminals.
It is concerning about Zimmerman that many of his descriptions do not seem to have tangible su ious activity. How can you tell just by looking at someone that "they look they are on drugs?". Was he close enough to see blodshot eyes?! What exactly is su ious about someone "walking around, looking about"? It's not like he observed anything like them breaking into a house, breaking into a car, etc. Racial profiling can definitely go to far...
We know 911 is bull , but that still doesn't explain why Martin didn't call his dad. His dad was at home, Martin was in the gated complex, how hard is it to either run home or call your dad to help?
If the bond hearing was any indication of what is to come, Zimmerman won't even go to trial. And lol @ the media claiming Zimmerman is trying to taint the jury pool with his "self-serving apology" when those media s have gone out of their way to taint the minds of anyone stupid enough to take what they say at face value.
And you think that doesn't happen with everyone else?
My God...
What propaganda are you being taught?
The police are equal opportunity bullies. They with all races.
part of this complaint about Zimmerman is that he could have done things different, except by those who claim Zuimmerman was out to kill a black dude.
If Zimmerman is responsible for Martin's death by his choice of action, then isn't Martin responsible for his actions, or inaction, as well?
lol WC's propoganda is better
Especially in the American south. Racism is all lies and liberal propaganda.
I realize that WC is trolling right now but I really think he has a learning disability.
You can't. That's why there is a clear difference between "su ion" and "probable cause."
I still see nothing but allegations and su ion about this being profiling as well.
What "probable cause" do you have that this was a racist act?
I've been ed with by the police for no good reason. I'll bet other whites here have as well.
A guy is following you and you want them to know where you live? If I suspect a guy is following behind me while I'm driving, I take different routes to lose him before I head home whether he was following me or not. I'm I the only one to do this? As for the "calling dad", he was already on the phone with his girl.
right, he should have assumed from the start that Zimmerman was packing.
cops are all bullies!
I don't have any probable cause that the killing was a racist act and I think that is wholly irrelevant. The issue is that a life was taken, not whether the motive was racial or not.
Zimmerman's call stated that "this guy looks like he's on drugs". If you concede you can't make that determination just by looking at someone, then how does Zimmerman draw this conclusion without profiling Trayvon?
Short of an outright admission from Zimmerman, what evidence would you need to prove that Zimmerman was a racial profiler (much different than being an actual racist)?
Most terrorists are indeed Muslims, but most Muslims are not terrorists. Most criminals are indeed black, but most blacks are not criminals. Do you think this a nuance Zimmerman grasps?
Martin's dad was at dinner with his girlfriend at the time of the killing. Why would he call his dad who was at a restaurant and thus in no position to help?!
The media didn't take Trayvon Martin's life. Sure, the media always has an agenda, but the travesty in this case is the loss of a 17 year old life, not media bias.
Okay, I won't.
What's your solution?
You are now getting into a better point of discussion.
Profiling isn't necessarily a bad thing. Neither is discrimination warranted for the situation. We all discriminate on a daily basis. It usually has nothing to do with race however.
Wouldn't a wise person in society not want to appear as one who gets profiled?
Absolutely. Why do you think he doesn't?
Bobbyjoe kinda made me question my internal narrative of what happened, cuz apparently the dad wasn't even there so I can understand the lack of calling for help. What I don't understand is how the kid is afraid to ask anyone for help when he in lives there. No way I, or you, or any other able bodied young person gets cornered in your own gated community. Someone could have helped, it seemed like a small enough place. And if it's proven that a crime was committed, then the blood is on the hands of some silent neighbors too.
@bobbyjoe, that's the first I hear about the fathers whereabouts at the time. I'll take your word cuz I have been curious and just never found anything about it other than the initial reports that the dad was in the complex at the same time (visiting friends, which of course was not true cuz he lived there - lots of stuff was reported wrong even tho the incident occured a good amount of time before it broke nationally).
He had a right to be there but he was visiting his father/father's girlfriend. I'm not sure he would've known anybody that he could've called on the phone who lived there.
And going by the 911 calls Trayvon did try to call for help. The neighbours were unfortunately a little bit too frightened to go out and see what was happening I think. That and they probably didn't realize Zimmerman had a gun.
This may be out there but what do you think about assigning cops to neighborhoods by race? Like assigning black cops to cover predominantly black areas, who him/herself have been raised in one which would propel him to be more sympathetic to the black plight. Same with mexican cops with latino areas and so forth.
This would reduce close contact with problems of other races other than your own and may stem judgement and hatred of other racial groups that could possibly develop over time. What do you think?
Sure, go for it. Personally, I don't think it'll solve the problem but, hey, if it'll stop people from injecting race in an issue that has nothing to with race; I'm all for it.
I took a criminal justice class and my professor was a sapd. He generalized that guys who want to work in the west side and east side were, more times than not, young guys wanting to get into stuff. Wanting action. The southside were the guys close to retirement who liked all the restaurants. The northside were all the family guys wanting to work close to home. Don't know the actuality of this since I don't know any sapd.
Your idea makes sense, since alot of police start to treat areas where they are seen negetively as a war zone. However, realistically, I don't see the union, politicians, or voters agreeing with this.
Did anyone catch today that the prosecutor indicated Zimmerman had told the police during their hours of questioning him that Trayvon Martin was trying to suffocate him before he "scooted away" and shot Trayvon at close range?
That statement by Zimmerman clearly conflicts with his contention that the voice on the 911 call yelling 10-12 times for help in a 45 second span is his because that voice on the tape is not muffled and the gunshot is fired less than one second before the final and audible cry for help. No way does someone wrestle away from an attacker bashing his heading into the ground while sufocating him, unholster his gun and fire it in all in the span of under one second.
Remember that the main reason the lead investigator wanted to file a charge of manslaughter is that he didn't believe Z's story. From today's bail hearing, Zimmerman's credibility seems to be the prosecution's main strategy. Whether that will be enough if they don't have eyewitnesses that can corroborate Zimmerman being the agressor or seeing Martin screaming will be interesting to see.
That's right.
Send Gabe Kotter back to the place he came from.
On the serious side thought, many years back, I remember hearing about programs tried like this. Not sure, but I seem to remember the black police officers calling racism foul for being in the black neighborhoods because they were black.
And we are to believe this liar..... why?
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