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    3772 posts later, right or wrong, I still think the DA overcharged and I haven't seen anything to make me believe that they will get a conviction on 2nd degree Murder.
    After having seen most of the arguments now, I agree. I don't believe that still stick.

    I don't know what sort of charge would be appropriate here though. Negligent homicide? No idea. That's better left for the legal eagles.
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    How is that not a motive?
    based on the facts of this case, there is nothing to support that claim.

    There is also no evidence that suggests Zimmerman is lying about his motive.
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    After having seen most of the arguments now, I agree. I don't believe that still stick.

    I don't know what sort of charge would be appropriate here though. Negligent homicide? No idea. That's better left for the legal eagles.
    Most of the opinions I've seen say she should have gone with a manslaughter charge.
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    they're gonna try to pin him with profiling. its not an unreasonable tactic.
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    Was Martin on top of him, beating on him or not?
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    george said he was. george said he'd been hit a dozen times. thats a lie.
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    george said he was. george said he'd been hit a dozen times. thats a lie.
    How many hits was it?
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    they're gonna try to pin him with profiling. its not an unreasonable tactic.
    I have notice that many keep referring to "profiling" as if it adds an element to this case. Its almost as if they don't want to say racial profiling because it was left out of the affidavit filed by the investigator.

    There is no charge for profiling in Florida, or any state of which I am aware. Perhaps the federal government will go after him for racial profiling under a federal law. This might be covered under a hate crime or something to that effect. So far, no criminal charges have been brought against Zimmerman for this.
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    george said he was. george said he'd been hit a dozen times. thats a lie.
    The prosecution will have to prove that it was a lie. I hope they have a solid eye-witness.
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    I have notice that many keep referring to "profiling" as if it adds an element to this case. Its almost as if they don't want to say racial profiling because it was left out of the affidavit filed by the investigator.

    There is no charge for profiling in Florida, or any state of which I am aware. Perhaps the federal government will go after him for racial profiling under a federal law. This might be covered under a hate crime or something to that effect. So far, no criminal charges have been brought against Zimmerman for this.
    i agree.
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    How many hits was it?
    don't know. certainly wasn't any visual evidence showing he'd been hit a dozen times.
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    don't know. certainly wasn't any visual evidence showing he'd been hit a dozen times.
    But there is evidence that he was hit.

    Even if he is exaggerating, I think the exact number of times is irrelevant.
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    exaggerating is the kinder, gentler way of saying he's lying again, right?
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    I have notice that many keep referring to "profiling" as if it adds an element to this case. Its almost as if they don't want to say racial profiling because it was left out of the affidavit filed by the investigator.

    There is no charge for profiling in Florida, or any state of which I am aware. Perhaps the federal government will go after him for racial profiling under a federal law. This might be covered under a hate crime or something to that effect. So far, no criminal charges have been brought against Zimmerman for this.
    I agree. call it what it is and stop sugarcoating it. zimmerman racial profiled a kid who just wanted to get home to give his younger brother his candy and talk to his girlfriend over the phone, that's it. smh...black kids can't even walk home in the rain without looking su ious, we have to run full speed and never look around or we'll get followed and shot in the chest.

    when my son is old enough to understand, this will be one of the stories I share to him as to what life is like for young black men. its disgusting.
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    when my son is old enough to understand, this will be one of the stories I share to him as to what life is like for young black men. its disgusting.
    So you will enforce the negative vicious circle...
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    So you will enforce the negative vicious circle...
    not enforcing a vicious cycle, making him aware of the realities of society. teaching him that the color of his skin makes him a target of negative connotations no matter where he is at. I shouldn't have to do this in the 21st century but it is what it is.

    you don't think I should educate my son on racism?
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    So you will enforce the negative vicious circle...
    We stopped passing down the black codes about being black in America. Martin sure wasnt taught. Now it looks likes we'll have to revive it so our kids won't be harassed or killed.
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    not enforcing a vicious cycle, making him aware of the realities of society. teaching him that the color of his skin makes him a target of negative connotations no matter where he is at. I shouldn't have to do this in the 21st century but it is what it is.

    you don't think I should educate my son on racism?
    hopefully no one needs to be "educated" in racism. That's like being "educated" in life. Most of us have experienced it and understand that it sucks. I'm sure he'll be able to figure that out as well without someone telling him he's a target because of his skin. Smh

    So, as soon as he's old enough dad will tell him that he's a victim. Self oppression at it's finest.
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    We stopped passing down the black codes about being black in America. Martin sure wasnt taught. Now it looks likes we'll have to revive it so our kids won't be harassed or killed.
    Oh pfffft.

    Sure looked like "nolimit " got the code.
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    exaggerating is the kinder, gentler way of saying he's lying again, right?
    Not if he remembers it as a dozen.

    I think a jury gives him leeway for not keeping an exact count of hits while getting hit.
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    hopefully no one needs to be "educated" in racism. That's like being "educated" in life. Most of us have experienced it and understand that it sucks. I'm sure he'll be able to figure that out as well without someone telling him he's a target because of his skin. Smh

    So, as soon as he's old enough dad will tell him that he's a victim. Self oppression at it's finest.
    shut the up
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    Oh pfffft.

    Sure looked like "nolimit " got the code.
    Id tell my kid that white ranch cowboys have a hard on for guns and have an itch to shoot a for simply passing by on the sidewalk.
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    whoa
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    Id tell my kid that white ranch cowboys have a hard on for guns and have an itch to shoot a for simply passing by on the sidewalk.
    And you would be passing on an untrue, ignorant stereotype. off asshole.
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    We stopped passing down the black codes about being black in America. Martin sure wasnt taught. Now it looks likes we'll have to revive it so our kids won't be harassed or killed.
    exactly, I love my people but de-segregation was probably the worst thing that happened to us. in the 60's and 70's we had thriving business, our communities were drug free, black teachers who actually cared about our education. then after the civil rights movement we got complacent and never kept that momentum going.

    Malcom was right all along. that we shall get along cuz at the end of the day, the black man is still looked upon as a threat.
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