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    Getting one's head smashed into the ground can easily be construed as "great bodily harm". I bet that sometimes people even die from injuries that don't even bleeded.
    No .

    It's a good thing for Zimmerman that he is one hard headed nut.
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    I posted the law for you, dumbass. It doesn't say that.
    Then you must've posted the wrong law then.
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    It says PREVENT great bodily harm, not that he has to SUSTAIN great bodily harm.

    When Martin was pounding his head on the concrete there was a clear and indisputable possibility of great bodily harm.
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    It says PREVENT great bodily harm, not that he has to SUSTAIN great bodily harm.

    When Martin was pounding his head on the concrete there was a clear and indisputable possibility of great bodily harm.
    LOL...

    I wonder how many time you need to repeat that before Creep gets that in his thick skull?
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    Then you must've posted the wrong law then.


    ing idiot

    Fla. Stat. § 776.012. Use of force in defense of person

    A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

    (1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony
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    It says PREVENT great bodily harm, not that he has to SUSTAIN great bodily harm.

    When Martin was pounding his head on the concrete there was a clear and indisputable possibility of great bodily harm.
    I don't see the imminent death Martin was about to give him.
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    I don't see the imminent death Martin was about to give him.
    He was pounding Zimmermans head on the concrete dumbass. Zimmerman could clearly suffer great physical harm if he didn't stop. Zimmerman stopped him.
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    ... My point is that I think a lot of people jumped on board the Martin train without knowing or caring what the facts were/are. And now that they've chosen a side (in some cases, very publicly), they will be unwilling to acknowledge their decision could have been misguided...
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    Obviously. People who strongly hold any belief will be reluctant to give it up when it's challenged. What you stated is true not only for both sides, but it's true in general.
    I still stand by that. The law says "Imminent Death" and/or "Great bodily harm". According to the statements, examination and the video, don't see deadly self defense needed in this case. Take that to the lawmakers.
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    Again, I don't see the imminent death or great bodily harm. Martin on the other hand, yes. Zimmerman had a gun.
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    He was pounding Zimmermans head on the concrete dumbass.
    You don't know that.
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    Again, I don't see the imminent death or great bodily harm. Martin on the other hand, yes. Zimmerman had a gun.
    Just to be clear, you're saying that one cannot suffer great bodily harm 1) by getting head pounded into ground or 2) unless there is a big dent in your head that's gushing blood.

    Got it.
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    I really don't know what's so difficult to understand. Even if Martin was pounding his head against the pavement, its still gun>pavement.
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    Thats a stupid speculation. Understand?
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    He was pounding Zimmermans head on the concrete dumbass. Zimmerman could clearly suffer great physical harm if he didn't stop. Zimmerman stopped him.
    allegedly


    and I have my reservations on the story. Again, you have a broken nose, getting your head banged against the pavement, and you have the ability to put your hand in your pocket, grab the gun, put your finger in the trigger, aim and shoot at the attacker.

    mmm yeah, ok

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    Thats a stupid speculation. Understand?
    gun>pavement
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    You don't know that.
    no one knows that. You're the one looking at a video and saying that he couldn't have been in danger of great bodily harm.

    What if you were standing under a tall building and you looked up and saw a piano about to fall on your head and you moved out of the way. Were you not in imminent danger of death and great bodily harm?
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    Everybody is claiming Zimmerman to have self defense rights while totally dismissing Martin's.
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    I really don't know what's so difficult to understand. Even if Martin was pounding his head against the pavement, its still gun>pavement.
    The statute is crystal clear. If Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the concrete then Zimmerman could legally shoot him. What part of that don't you understand?
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    How in the are you rich??


    The irony of a supposed black poster confounded by the thought of someone lacking intelligence yet still acquiring wealth.
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    no one knows that. You're the one looking at a video and saying that he couldn't have been in danger of great bodily harm.

    What if you were standing under a tall building and you looked up and saw a piano about to fall on your head and you move out of the way. Were you not in imminent danger of death and great bodily harm?
    Again, GUN>PAVEMENT. Which one is more worthy of self defense?
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    Everybody is claiming Zimmerman to have self defense rights while totally dismissing Martin's.
    Where did anyone dismiss Martin's rights to defend himself?
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    no one knows that. You're the one looking at a video and saying that he couldn't have been in danger of great bodily harm.

    What if you were standing under a tall building and you looked up and saw a piano about to fall on your head and you moved out of the way. Were you not in imminent danger of death and great bodily harm?
    you pull your gun out and shoot at the piano?
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    I don't see the imminent death Martin was about to give him.
    Idiot...

    A witness has Martin beating Zimmerman. You might think it more reasonable for martin to beat Zimmerman to death, but isn't it possible Zimmerman thought he might be under imminent threat of harm or death?
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    Everybody is claiming Zimmerman to have self defense rights while totally dismissing Martin's.
    Martin wasn't the one with the broken nose. Zimmerman wasn't sitting on Martins chest pounding his head into the concrete. Martin wasn't the one screaming like a little girl.
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    The statute is crystal clear. If Martin was pounding Zimmerman's head into the concrete then Zimmerman could legally shoot him. What part of that don't you understand?
    If Martin saw a gun about to be used on him, Martin has a right to pound his head on the pavement. What part of that don't you understand?
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