What imminent threat did he have to defend himself against?
If it's going to kill you, then both of them dumbass. If Zimmerman would have pulled his gun and then Martin threw him to the ground and bashed him to death, then Martin would have good chance at getting his murder conviction overturned in a few years.
What imminent threat did he have to defend himself against?
Does he have a broken nose? You are just gobbling up everything he says huh?
uh...A GUN!
that's completely irrelevant. Maybe if Z pulled a gun first. BUT WE DONT KNOW THAT.
rock/paper/scissors
bullet > fist
If...
Are you suggesting it wasn't a "if" and Zimmerman already had a gun pulled on Martin?
You are now making things up that there is no evidence to support. Unless...
Were you an eye witness to this? Really... the police need all the witnesses they can get. I suggest you go to Florida and make yourself available to testify.
And you know, beyond any doubt, that Zimmerman threatened him with a gun first?
relevant law cited:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/polit...f-defense-laws
so you're saying TM saw a man with a gun and decided to "stand his ground" and defend himself with his fists vs a man with a gun. .....OK
any other random scenarios you want to make up to justify your stance on this case?
The police said he had a broken nose and that his injuries were totally consistent with the story he told them.. Are you claiming they are in on the conspiracy?
LOL...
Creep should write cartoons...
if it's relevant, then you've got the wrong thread
I figured it all out now...
Creep is a Mouse troll!
That thought definitely occurred to me.
He's been saying that from the get-go. Lulz.
I'll even concede Creepn's argument (merely just for the sake of it) that they BOTH could claim self-defense.
It just so happens that Z defended himself a whole uva lot better.
I would not be surprised. Zimmerman already gotten off on charges before when he should've done time.
Yep.
I said early on that Martin may have thought he was "standing his ground." Still, it was pretty stupid of Martin to attack a person on unknown capacity. Many of us easy looking targets do carry, for defense.
I'm still laughing at your theory that Zimmerman pulled the gun on Martin and Martin attacked him with his fists in self defense.
Gun>>>>>>>>>Fists
If that's what actually happened then it was darwinian selection at work.
Yeah if Martin was carrying a gun and shot Zimmerman in self defense, I'm sure you guys would be bending over backwards to defend him.
, that only worked about 10% of the time when I'd run outta ammo on GTA.
If Martin had a broken nose and Zimmerman was seen sitting on his chest pounding his head into the concrete then yes I would defend Martin.
what would be to defend if he shot him in self defense? justified
I see no evidence of conspiracy here, but some recent history reflects poorly on the Sanford PD.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2012...racial-historyIn 2006 two private security guards—one the son of a Sanford police officer, the other a volunteer for the department—killed a black teen with a gunshot in his back. Even though they admitted to never identifying themselves, the guards were released without charges. Then, in 2010, Justin Collison, the son of a Sanford PD lieutenant, sucker-punched a homeless black man outside a bar, and officers on the scene released Collison without charges. He eventually surrendered after video of the incident materialized online; the police chief at the time was ultimately forced into retirement. "Bottom line, we didn't do our job that night," a police department representative told local news station WFTV of the incident.
As it would turn out, the Sanford patrol sergeant in charge on the night of Collison's assault, Anthony Raimondo, would also be the first supervisor on the scene of Trayvon Martin's shooting death.
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