How can the US compete in an advanced world with logical failures like WC walking around without so much nonsense? This plain murder and a cover up.
Everytime a clear cut deal like this comes along, morons have to screw it up.
How did you interpret what I said as defending the shooter? I said that when I heard the tape I didn't interpret it as I had heard it reported. Sometimes it's best to listen to the actual evidence and draw your own conclusion rather than accepting someone else's spin on it.
Do we actually know for SURE yet which one of them was calling for help before the shot?
If there a definitive tape or eye witness?
And that's an honest question, not a spin or position.
Wow. I guess she lives in the same cartoon world as Borat.
maybe it's not a "hate" crime, but it's some variation of homicide (manslaughter maybe?)
Explain.
He posted a cartoon of a "conservative" brain. I saw his cartoon, and raised him a cartoonish journalist.
What was cartoonish about what she said?
MSNBC has got you all worked up, again. Trayvon underwent an autopsy, the same as in every other su ious death in Florida, and as part of that, was tested for drugs. Zimmerman was not tested because he was not arrested. God bless.
If you look back, I have said it looks like Zimmerman instigated this. However, I know reported accounts are not always correct. When the race card is played, I am extra su ious. If the case cannot stand by itself without bringing in an emotional factor, then maybe it can't stand.
Please note, I have not defended Zimmerman. I have only pointed out the biased people are spewing may be wrong.
Sanity check please...
Fixed:
Do these people expect an autopsy on a live person?
My God. They think we are defending the shooter, when it's not that at all. We are pointing out stupidity.
Of COURSE the resident authoritarian doesn't find a problem with this behavior.
I see someone let the ankle biters out.
Of COURSE the resident authoritarian doesn't find a problem with this behavior.
My point was that Zimmerman should have been tested as part of the investigation and not just taking his word of self defense. The fact that there was no investigation is ludicrious. God bless.
No, I expected a drug test on a live person. Tallk about stuipidity.
I agree with this. , these days if someone just gets hurt on a construction site they usually get blood tested.
smh........please tell me you're simply doing your best WC impression here.
Please tell me you are simply doing your best bouchump impression here.
Guys with a science background usually wait until they get all the facts before they make a conclusion. That state of mind seems to be clearly lacking here.
Why didn't Zimmerman mention that he had a gun? If I was approaching someone who seemed su ious I would definitely make it known that I was carrying...
Dude needs to fry, plain and simple.
I can go along with that, but still, we weren't there to see how it all went down.
I've come to the conclusion that Agloco doesn't have the claimed background. Just another ankle biter.
Why? So far as I know, there hasn't been any suggestion Zimmerman was intoxicated or under the influence of narcotics or prescription medication.
Apparently, they didn't take his word. There is an eye witness that has provided a statement that corroborates Zimmerman's claim. According to the witness, the screams for help, heard on the 911 call, are those of Zimmerman getting the beat out of him by Trayvon Martin. If Zimmerman feared for his life, he had every right to use whatever force was necessary to stop Martin's assault.
There is an investigation. And, now there are three investigations. One by the Police Department. One by the State Police. And, one by the Justice Department.
Just because Zimmerman wasn't arrested doesn't mean the police department didn't intend to investigate the shooting. In fact, they were preparing a case to present to the Grand Jury when Al "Taywana-Braly-Crown-Heights-Race-Monger" Sharpton saw an opportunity to whip up the racists in America one more time. So, here we are.
Not that it will matter anymore, now that the racists have lined up with the narrative being spun by the media, Sharpton, Jackson, and Obama et. al. but, here's what I think happened.
Zimmerman saw a su ious person walking through the gated community, of which he's a member of the neighborhood watch program. Zimmerman called 911 to report the su ious person and was told not confront him. We know this from the 911 call.
Martin saw Zimmerman eyeing him and became concerned. His girlfriend urged him to run but he decided to just walk a bit faster in an effort not to cause Zimmerman to pursue him. He hadn't done anything wrong and if he ran it would make it appear that he had. We know this from his girlfriend's interview with some newspaper.
Speculation alert:
At some point Zimmerman lost sight of Martin and got out of his truck to see if he could spot him again and they encountered one another in someone's yard.
Back to what's been reported:
According to the girlfriend, she heard Martin ask someone "Why are you following me," and the person responded, "What are you doing here?" Again, according to the girlfriend, no other words were exchanged before a scuffle broke out. Again, we know this from the girlfriend's interview.
I don't recall if she she reported hearing anyone scream for help but, the eye witness reported seeing Martin on top of Zimmerman (actually he saw hoodie on top of red sweater because, he doesn't know either person) and that Zimmerman (red sweater) was screaming for help. Apparently, there is a 911 call during this time where a person can be heard screaming for help. Police say this is Zimmerman.
The eye witness retreated upstairs to his apartment and by the time he got up the stairs and looked back down, hoodie was lying motionless on the ground. I presume Zimmerman eventually felt his life was in danger -- not from a bag of skittles but from the serious beating he was getting -- and he drew his weapon and shot Martin.
None of this supports his claim of self-defense nor does it support the invoking the Florida law that police relied on in not arresting Zimmerman. But, it certainly makes it all plausible and, certainly, a reasonable conclusion that could have been drawn by police officers, on the scene, talking to witnesses, and taking the totality of the scene into consideration.
Al Sharpton, on the other hand, has nothing more than the race of the victim to go on before declaring this a racial crime so heinous that Americans should be rioting in the streets until Zimmerman is executed.
Seriously, aren't African-Americans getting just a bit tired of this tired, but dangerous, trope? I mean, the police chief is getting death threats and New Black Panther Party is issuing "Wanted: Dead or Alive" posters. It's a bit ridiculous, I think.
Meanwhile, over in Sarasota, you have a real heinous crime that no one seems interested in getting indignant over because the shooter is black and the victims are white.
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