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    The fact that it requires Insider access is pretty lame, tbh. I didn't realize that at first.
    The fact that WE pay for Insider to read a guy who is ripping off your writing is HILARIOUS.
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    We should email bomb espn
    anyone have an email link?
    or we could keep our cool about it and be classy Spurs fans.
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    should i send espn a cease and desist letter?
    yes!!!!


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    Whether it was him, or someone else giving him timvp's post, someone should have done a little research on these forums.
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    or we could keep our cool about it and be classy Spur fans.
    How is letting ESPN know that one of their writers has failed in his duties a bad thing? He's making people pay for information that's available for free.
    To compound matters he didn't even have the class to list his reference and add his own commentary.

    I know that online content writers are underpaid and I get that he was probably trying to beat a deadline. In terms of professional courtesy, however, not listing your source like that is in poor taste.
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    Anyone else disappointed this guy obviously isn't watching a lot of spurs games? I wanted some real analysis from another opinion.
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    Well let's face it, if you're looking for quality Spurs related content on the internet, you won't find no better. In fact, you'll be hard pressed to find close to as good. This isn't just run of the mill fluff, this is actual in depth commentary and detailed analysis.
    Agreed, I don't agree with timvp on everything but the quality of the takes from him but also some others like Bruno is pretty much the best you can find regarding the Spurs. 48moh has some nice writing (they're probably the best for "stories") but for pure substance and in-depth analysis, ST is where it's at. Easily the best Spurs website bar none.
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    Wooow him, where do we complain at?
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    How is letting ESPN know that one of their writers has failed in his duties a bad thing? He's making people pay for information that's available for free.
    To compound matters he didn't even have the class to list his reference and add his own commentary.

    I know that online content writers are underpaid and I get that he was probably trying to beat a deadline. In terms of professional courtesy, however, not listing your source like that is in poor taste.
    timvp can confront him/ESPN if he wants,

    Spurs fans would just come across as a bunch of whiny butthurt children
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    I'm a librarian and my husband is a professional writer. We both take copyright and plagiarism very seriously. We both think you should at the very least report this to ESPN.
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    Someone should take a screen shot before ESPN or Carroll takes the page down.

    Also,

    ESPN Twitter:
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    "Press Related Inquiries" (only direct email I could find that was kind of relevant):
    [email protected]

    Contact ESPN Directly (for the United States):
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    This is one of the most egregious article plagiarisms I've ever seen... cease and ing desist.
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    Can you really accuse someone of plagiarism if the sentences and words aren't exactly the same ?

    I'm just wondering... if Carroll thought this through..

    Yes, absolutely. Making insignificant changes to sentence structure doesn't change a thing. I just picked one pair of quotes at random, from the OP (below). They are more than close enough to be considered plagiarism.

    Like I said, though, hurting the guy who took credit for the article doesn't help LJ. Getting attribution does. (Or... maybe getting a little pay from Scouts, Inc. )


    From the Article:
    During the regular season the Clippers averaged 91.8 possessions per game. In order to defeat the Grizzlies the Clippers slowed the pace down even more, with less than 90 possessions per game. The Spurs on the other hand averaged 95.1 possessions in the first round of the playoffs versus the Jazz. However, they will struggle to speed up the pace of the game with Chris Paul in the game.

    Originally Posted by TimVP:
    In the regular season, the Clippers played at a pace of 91.8 possessions per game. To beat the Grizzlies, they dropped that number to under 90. The Spurs, conversely, averaged 95.1 possessions per game and they've played at the league's fastest pace so far in the playoffs. However, it's going to be next to impossible to speed up this series with Paul at the helm of the Clippers.
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    I think this should be resolved between the guy and timvp. Maybe he could recommend timvp to espn or something. More productive than ruining the guy's career and not getting anything in return.
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    Did they actually number it like that and everything?


    edit: nm, I just saw the article posted
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    ESPN pulled a Buddy Holly
    x 308430483
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    Did they actually number it like that and everything?
    no
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    I edited my initial post in this thread
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    I edited my initial post in this thread
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    I'm deleting the full article from here. We don't need anyone saying all of you didn't pay for that access.

    Thanks.
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    Too ing funny.
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    Yes, absolutely. Making insignificant changes to sentence structure doesn't change a thing. I just picked one pair of quotes at random, from the OP (below). They are more than close enough to be considered plagiarism.

    Like I said, though, hurting the guy who took credit for the article doesn't help LJ. Getting attribution does. (Or... maybe getting a little pay from Scouts, Inc. )


    From the Article:
    During the regular season the Clippers averaged 91.8 possessions per game. In order to defeat the Grizzlies the Clippers slowed the pace down even more, with less than 90 possessions per game. The Spurs on the other hand averaged 95.1 possessions in the first round of the playoffs versus the Jazz. However, they will struggle to speed up the pace of the game with Chris Paul in the game.

    Originally Posted by TimVP:
    In the regular season, the Clippers played at a pace of 91.8 possessions per game. To beat the Grizzlies, they dropped that number to under 90. The Spurs, conversely, averaged 95.1 possessions per game and they've played at the league's fastest pace so far in the playoffs. However, it's going to be next to impossible to speed up this series with Paul at the helm of the Clippers.

    Yeah that's what I thought... you don't even have to read all of it to know it's saying the exact same thing...

    haha I used to do this in high school, and even I did a better job at hiding it than him.
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