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Mostly good but there always has to be a hater... Israel Gutierrez
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Hopefully they do huh?The San Antonio Spurs are 5-0 in the playoffs entering Thursday's Game 2 against the Los Angeles Clippers (ESPN, 9:30 ET). Here are five key questions about the team looking for its fifth NBA le since 1999:
1. Fact or Fiction: The Spurs are the best team in the NBA.
Henry Abbott, ESPN.com: Fact. John Hollinger called it back when Manu Ginobili was hurt: Don't sleep on the Spurs, he said. Now that the playoffs are in full swing, they're the one team you can sleep on. By that I mean, if you fall asleep watching TV, you wouldn't wonder about the outcome. The Spurs have been so strong that it appears only the Thunder or Heat at full strength are impediments to another le.
Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com: Fact. What are the defining features of a "best team"? Start with the NBA's most efficient offense. Stack that offense with a core group of stars who have mastered it together over a sustained period of success. Staff them with the league's most creative coach and professional role players whom that coach can seamlessly plug into his refined system. Then give them a very respectable defense that can compensate for a lack of athleticism with diligence and trust.
Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Fiction. They might have the best offensive balance and the deepest team in the league, but I'd still lean toward the teams with potentially dominant defenses and transcendent superstars. The Thunder and a healthy Heat team are still better than the Spurs.
Marc Stein, ESPN.com: Fact. Given the groove they're in these days? Who else could you possibly nominate? The Thunder are also undefeated in the playoffs, which is an undeniable achievement given the teams they've had to deal with, but look at the numbers over the last 50 games. Fifty! The Spurs are rollin'.
Brian Windhorst, ESPN.com: Fact. This is obviously a roving designation until the Finals are over. But the Spurs haven't lost a game in more than a month. They have played well on little rest, played well on a lot of rest, won by scoring 124 points, won by scoring 87 points, won by playing very big and won by playing small. This is some darn impressive-looking squad right now.
2. Fact or Fiction: Tim Duncan's prowess at age 36 is a surprise.
Abbott: Fiction. Far from magic, this seems like the result of an incredibly rational process. The Spurs are more than a decade into figuring out what therapies and practices work for him, and they do those things. He has kept his weight down, which I suspect would benefit many players. And, importantly, Gregg Popovich has long managed his minutes. It's a smart long-term approach that is too rare.
Arnovitz: Fiction. One of Duncan's finest characteristics as a player is keen self-awareness. He's always understood his limitations (which might be one reason some fans haven't been drawn to him), and that's one feature that comes in handy as a player grows older. Popovich has been smart about rationing Duncan's minutes, and the Spurs are better than ever at getting Duncan the ball where he can anchor the offense.
Gutierrez: Fact. Given the drop in his numbers over the past three seasons, absolutely. Factor in that it was a compressed season, and it's even more surprising he held up this well. Yes, he got spot rest, but Duncan played only four less games than LeBron James this season and still looks like he's shaved two years off his career.
Stein: Fact. Because of where he was at age 35. But he took advantage of the extended prep period afforded by the lockout, lost all kinds of weight to ease the burden on his knees and turned back the clock. Of course, as I'm typing all this, it occurs to me that it really shouldn't have been a surprise since we know that the Spurs always make the most of a work-stoppage season.
Windhorst: Fact. The play of graybeards Duncan and Kevin Garnett in this type of season is simply amazing. It should serve as a reminder that we're watching two of the greatest big men in history and they're both -bent on another le. It's also an achievement for the Spurs and their discipline and long-term planning. They've been engaged in a project to maximize Duncan's career for four or so years now and it's working.
3. Rank the three people most responsible for the Spurs' success.
Abbott: (1) Duncan. There's a certain irony here. He might be the team's third-best player this season. But the whole team wouldn't exist without his uncommon play and leadership over the last decade and a half. (2) Popovich. On almost every issue this team is as smart as it comes, and he is the reason. (3) Peter Holt. This is a little like the strong economy under Bill Clinton. People will say he didn't do much to create it. And maybe that's true. But he was smart enough not to meddle.
(Crazy: Tony Parker was an MVP candidate this season and isn't on my list.)
Arnovitz: (1) Popovich. Systematic stability is so important to a basketball team's success -- something we saw last season and many others before. (2) R.C. Buford. Building an NBA roster is as much art as science, and the GM consistently produces beautiful work. (3) Duncan. You could insert Parker and Ginobili here, but Duncan's presence in San Antonio has made the whole enterprise work since the day he was drafted.
Gutierrez: (1) Parker. There have been discussions for a few years about possibly moving on from Parker. He has made the Spurs' front office look smart for keeping him. (2) Popovich. Best coach in the league, until Phil comes back. (3) Buford. Finished second for Executive of the Year, but would've looked just fine in first.
Stein: (1) Popovich. (2) Duncan. (3) Buford. Parker has to be in the top three if we're talking only about this season, but the three I chose were ranked in terms of their roles in establishing and maintaining San Antonio's one-of-a-kind team culture. And Pop connecting with Duncan right off the bat -- and then keeping it going for 15 years -- is where it all starts. (As long as you first acknowledge, as Pop and R.C. often do, how downright lucky the Spurs were to be in two lotteries over the course of a decade to land David Robinson and Timmy.)
Windhorst: (1) Duncan. The torch has gone from Kareem to Shaq to Duncan here as the greatest big man in the game. (2) Popovich. In a career stuffed with fantastic coaching and personnel decisions, he may be in the midst of his greatest job with how he prepped his club in this unusual season and added pieces along the way. (3) Parker. He's revolutionized his game a bit this season, taking on a different and more aggressive role. This is not common for a guy in his 11th season to do.
4. A fifth Spurs le in 14 seasons would be ________________.
Abbott: Very hard on LeBron. Also on Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Garnett and all those other players who, because of age or reputation, need this one.
Arnovitz: Further validation.
Gutierrez: The gold standard for small market teams everywhere.
Stein: Embarrassing for those of us who not only wrote 'em off for the umpteenth time coming into this season but also continue to ignore them. Still can't understand why there's so little chatter out there about Duncan chasing his fifth championship. LeBron's first ring or Kobe's sixth ring is all we talk about. When Duncan's drive for No. 5 is the most likely to happen.
Windhorst: Crowning. They won four les and narrowly lost out on a fifth, but because three of them were in between more high-profile Lakers runs, they have not properly earned the attention for what they've accomplished. If they add that fifth one, Duncan, Ginobili and Parker need to be elevated to the same conversations as Magic, Kareem and Worthy, Jordan and Pippen, and Russell, Cousy and Heinsohn.
5. Fact or Fiction: The Spurs will win the 2012 NBA le.
Abbott: Fact. Of course, I have no idea. Anything can happen. But if I had to pick the most likely team, it's a cinch to pick the team that has managed minutes well, gets good shots on almost every possession and has yet to break a sweat.
Arnovitz: Fact, with an acknowledgment that a healthy Miami squad would be a very tough out and would certainly be a superior defensive team. But so long as the Heat lack the balance Chris Bosh gives them, the Spurs have that springtime look of a veteran team poised for a le run.
Gutierrez: Fiction. Still sticking by the tried and true idea that an offense-first team rarely wins it all. The Spurs were 17th in the regular season in field goal percentage allowed and are dead last among the remaining teams in that category. Yes, they can outscore you, but the Spurs as a defensive team is a thing of the past.
Stein: Fact. Closest thing we've got to a le favorite right now. Deepest, healthiest and, uh, grooviest team on the map.
Windhorst: Fact. They're my favorite at the moment. Right now they remind me a bit of the Argentinean national team from the 2002-06 era, a brilliantly coached team with players who knew each other so well, knew and executed their roles perfectly and consistently, had their systems so well-oiled they could perform them under any cir stance, and were the definition of a great "team." That's what the Spurs are doing right now.
Mostly good but there always has to be a hater... Israel Gutierrez
Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Fiction. They might have the best offensive balance and the deepest team in the league, but I'd still lean toward the teams with potentially dominant defenses and transcendent superstars. The Thunder and a healthy Heat team are still better than the Spurs.
What an ESPN tool.
Can you say hypocritical? The Spurs have the best balanced team in the league and a solid defense to go with it and their games haven't really been that close, and yet Miami lost to the Knicks and the Pacers.
Israel Gutierrez is just a tool.
Let the haters hate. In the end, Game will speak louder than words.Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Fiction. They might have the best offensive balance and the deepest team in the league, but I'd still lean toward the teams with potentially dominant defenses and transcendent superstars. The Thunder and a healthy Heat team are still better than the Spurs.
What an ESPN tool.
Can you say hypocritical? The Spurs have the best balanced team in the league and a solid defense to go with it and their games haven't really been that close, and yet Miami lost to the Knicks and the Pacers.
Besides Israel is a analyst, commentator or whatever the he is tbh
Yes, I know, I was just venting.Let the haters hate. In the end, Game will speak louder than words.
Besides Israel is a analyst, commentator or whatever the he is tbh
tbh..Israel isn't that far off on our defensive stats...but that was because in the beginning of the season, we were horrible. At the end of the year, our defense charged and really picked it up. We are a MUCH better defensive team now.
Yeah, he cherrypicked. Thus, the tool comments from above Spurfans. With our new additions, we managed to patch defensive holes while keeping the offense crisp.
This guy covers the Heat... he should not be part of these discussions.Israel Gutierrez, ESPN.com: Fiction. They might have the best offensive balance and the deepest team in the league, but I'd still lean toward the teams with potentially dominant defenses and transcendent superstars. The Thunder and a healthy Heat team are still better than the Spurs.
Also I would rather the team stay under the radar. It's rare that the Spurs get this much press but with everyone and their mother saying the Spurs are going to win it all without a doubt it could get into their heads and diminish their effort.
Before I even started reading I knew Israel was going to be one of the analysts asked
You do have a valid point. But with Pop, Timmy, Manu and Tony leading, I doubt the young guys would slack off and let the attention get in their heads. Just the culture of team I guess.
Israel Gutierrez is a clown and that is all, the moron predicted the Spurs and Jazz to go 7 games! and predicted 7 game series with the Clipps..
The guy's clearly got some personal issue with the Spurs. Time to start ignoring him.
I swear you could ask Gutierrez right now who won the Spurs/Jazz series and he'd say "offensive teams never win, so don't count out Utah".
Loved the comparison of this team to the Argentinean national team...let's hope they achieve the same level of success.
Lil Izzy Guti is such a transparent lil biyatch
Haha, does Israel really believe the words coming out of his mouth? What a little . I don't mind someone not picking the Spurs to win it all, I know that there are some question marks still left, but your reason has to better than, "I think the Heat and Thunder are better". Sounds like any casual NBA fan to me.
When you see such a bias toward one team why the do they even ask this moron his opinion. I know durant, westbroke and lebron are great players but as of today what the have they accomplished? Nothing that's what! Who ever said the thunder is a better defensive team than us? I don't think they are. Right now we play zone against miami and how will they even score.
Hakeem Olajuwon???Windhorst: (1) Duncan. The torch has gone from Kareem to Shaq to Duncan here as the greatest big man in the game.
Israel Gutierrez seems to have his finger on the pulse of the NBA. I think he knows what is what , I'm very worried about SA winning it all now that I see his points.
I also think if Pop wins another this year you almost have to put him ahead of phil. jackson has always had the best player or players in the league. Pop has done all this and stayed compe ive his entire time with the team besides when Drob was hurt. phil comes to a team thats ready to win then runs when he sees the end coming.
Gutierrez just hating like always.
Someone please post the Per diem (INSIDER) in the other thread please! : )
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