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    in b4

    "oh well, we can't do anything about it now"
    maybe we could, just a tiny little maybe, but oligarchy's Capitalism dictates, and clearly has exclusive dictator power, no brake on its amassing of Capital.

    so

    yes, "we can't do anything about it now" (and you don't have ability, or suggestions to support you pollyanna, hopeful bull )

    America, the planet, is ed and un able.

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    People gonna die ya'll

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    People gonna die ya'll
    too bad her dumbass isn't dead already. she trying to kill NY and then the USA all by her dumbass self.

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    too bad her dumbass isn't dead already. she trying to kill NY and then the USA all by her dumbass self.
    I'm seriously considering the possibility that she is a plant from the RNC.

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    I'm seriously considering the possibility that she is a plant from the RNC.
    she could be. i thought she was the idiot but i guess her cons uents are the real dip s tbh.

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    Deep state? Chris and his conspiracies

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    That was awkward — at world’s biggest climate conference, U.S. promotes fossil fuels

    President Trump’s top White House adviser on energy and climate stood before the crowd of some 200 people on Monday and tried to burnish the image of coal, the fossil fuel that powered the industrial revolution

    — and is now a major culprit behind the climate crisis world leaders are meeting here to address.

    “We strongly believe that no country should have to sacrifice economic prosperity or energy security in pursuit of environmental sustainability,”

    said Wells Griffith, Trump’s adviser.


    Mocking laughter echoed through the conference room.

    A woman yelled, “These false solutions are a joke!”

    And dozens of people erupted into chants of protest.


    The protest was a piece of theater, and so too was

    the United States’ public embrace of coal and other dirty fuels at an event otherwise dedicated to saving the world from the catastrophic effects of climate change.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...nl_most&wpmm=1

    Trash/oligarchy/Capital self-ridiculing before the planet.



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    the costs of doing nothing will be substantial, and they may not be as far away as people think:

    By the middle of this century, climate change is likely to punch a hole through the busiest stretch of rail in North America. Parts of Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor route, which carries 12 million people each year between Boston and Washington, face “continual inundation.” Flooding, rising seas, and storm surge threaten to erode the track bed and knock out the signals that direct train traffic. The poles that provide electricity for trains are at risk of collapse, even as power substations suc b to floodwaters. “If one of the segments of track shuts down, it will shut down this segment of the NEC,” warned members of Amtrak’s planning staff. “There is not an alternate route that can be used as a detour.”



    That was the conclusion of a three-volume, multi-year climate study undertaken with first Booz Allen Hamilton Inc. and then Stantec Inc. Although the report was completed in April 2017, its conclusions were kept private until this November, when a partially redacted version was obtained by Bloomberg through a public records request. led “Amtrak NEC Climate Change Vulnerability Assessment,” the do ent outlines the severe threat facing one 10-mile section of the 457 miles of track, much of which runs perilously close to water.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...rak-sea-level/

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    Amtrak being subject to weather damage proves "climate change" is a threat? Ok.

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    Ecocide as Creative Destruction

    since 1970 60% of the mammals, birds, fish and reptiles on the planet have been driven to extinction. To the extent that the WWF has it right,

    climate change accounts for less than 10% of these losses

    Habitat degradation and loss and animal exploitation (e.g. trawl-net fishing) explain most of this animal extinction.

    Habitat loss is primarily due to deforestation
    to feed factory farm animals.

    Over approximately the same time frame, 60% – 80% of insects have also been made extinct.

    If the one-degree Celsius warming experienced to date explains the insect extinction,

    where does that leave the
    IPCC’s1.5 degree warming ‘budget?’

    industrial agriculture— including deforestation, monoculture planting and the use of pesticides, explains the insect and animal extinctions quite well.

    That oceanic dead zones ring industrial economies supports the interpretation that they are caused by agricultural runoff.

    There is no plausible exit from the current predicament emanating from the established order. (aka un able)

    The status quo is untenable, not a haven.


    The habitat loss and degradation that substantially explains the insect and animal mass extinctions ties directly to animal agriculture— land is being cleared for animal grazing and to grow feed crops for factory farms.

    Factory farms are ‘efficient’ in the narrow sense of

    favoring commodity animals by decimating populations of non-commodity animals.

    This is done through monoculture planting of feed-crops to exclude / decimate non-feed crops.

    This decimation is accomplished using pesticides and herbicides that eliminate ‘losses’ to non-feed plants and insects.

    Annihilation is the point, not an accident.


    commodity production, excludes consideration of broader environmental relationships.

    Question:

    if a group of people proposed killing 60% – 80% of the animals, insects and marine life on the planet

    while emitting enough gases into the atmosphere to cook the planet,

    should their stance as ‘centrists’ be taken seriously?

    after they were told they accelerated the damage caused

    The term ‘sociopaths’ seems more descriptively accurate.


    most people want to do the right thing when it comes to the planet.

    This illustrates the divide between political and economic democracy.

    Economic concentration is used to crush political democracy.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12...e-destruction/

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    Amtrak being subject to weather damage proves "climate change" is a threat? Ok.
    Rising ocean levels. The social costs will be substantial.

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    Rising ocean levels. The social costs will be substantial.
    We will not be looked on kindly by our children and their children.

    Funny at how fossil fuel companies are all now on board with carbon taxes... if they can be shielded from liability lawsuits.

    That right there says all you need to know about the truth.

    Even the fossil fuel companies know the truth: The climate is changing, and it is our actions that are the primary driver.

    They know they will lose in the courts where evidence matters, and are starting to hedge.

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    Amtrak being subject to weather damage proves "climate change" is a threat? Ok.
    Dude, your ability to comment on scientific topics ended when you started pushing fake moon landing and flat earth theories. GTFO.

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    Dude, your ability to comment on scientific topics ended when you started pushing fake moon landing and flat earth theories. GTFO.
    ^Lying got wants a safe space

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    ^Lying got wants a safe space
    yup. chris never commits to any theories. he'll hint the out of them.

    he'll talk about how anyone leaving the earth would be fried by the van allen belt, and talk about snowglobe earth theory, but he'll never commit to anything.

    very rarely do we find people so unwilling to state their convictions

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    yup. chris never commits to any theories. he'll hint the out of them.

    he'll talk about how anyone leaving the earth would be fried by the van allen belt, and talk about snowglobe earth theory, but he'll never commit to anything.
    I call that having the cowardice of one's convictions.

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    it's a motif with edgier posters. sometimes accompanied by a pretense of curiosity or the solemnity of "hard questions."

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    some interesting signatures on this... particularly towards the bottom left


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    What's your conspiracy theory here?

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    What's your conspiracy theory here?
    i dont have one

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    So is Chris the new Darrin?

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    So is Chris the new Darrin?
    even worse. he lacks WC's charming qualities such as his general willingness to engage and his unintentional hilarity.

    D is still kickin around, btw.
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