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    You're right. Gender isn't the same as sex. I misspoke.

    The concept of pretending to be the opposite sex through alterations and roles then expecting society to play along - that's science denial.
    Yes because genes tell you how you MUST act.

    Idiot...

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    Experts are saying all signs point to another Ice Age
    Experts say...
    They all say...
    Some are even saying...
    Many people say to me...

    You got this Trump ian talk down beautifully.

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    it’s winter a comin and she’s gettin cold. How’s that? We still have Winter, wtf?

    We have had some record setting lows in some parts of the country.

    Who would have thought average global temperature is rising and we could still measure record lows at various places on the Earth?
    (Not members of the red team apparently)

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    it’s winter a comin and she’s gettin cold. How’s that? We still have Winter, wtf?

    We have had some record setting lows in some parts of the country.

    Who would have thought average global temperature is rising and we could still measure record lows at various places on the Earth?
    (Not members of the red team apparently)

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    Warming is only one aspect of climate change, which is the more accurate term. Ocean warming destabilizes the jet stream, which can lead to freak cold snaps in North America.

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    Warming is only one aspect of climate change, which is the more accurate term. Ocean warming destabilizes the jet stream, which can lead to freak cold snaps in North America.
    If the Gulf Stream dies or wanders, Ireland, Icelland, UK will become much colder

    predatory, voracious, corrupt, murderous Capitalism (BigCarbon and BigFinance) has really ed the planet beyond un ability.

    If there were a "solution", it's unknown, and nobody nowhere is implementing ANY solution.

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    If we don't start to manage the problem, it will manage us, tbh.

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    Yes because genes tell you how you MUST act.

    Idiot...
    Didnt say anything about acting. Climate change doesn't tell you how you must act. It's always your decision. A male is a male and a female is a female. Those are scientific facts.

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    If we don't start to manage the problem, it will manage us, tbh.
    nope, it's over, already way too late to overcome 150+ years of GHG emissions.

    and GHG and other emissions CONTINUE to increase

    and then

    there's the severe, pervasive plastic and chemical pollution in air, water, land, animals, plants.

    Humans have THEIR BED and there ain't no fix, with no fix is even being attempted.

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    TL;DNR : causes of AGW are increasing, not flat, no decreasing

    A world off track on climate change


    https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...156fd2cb4.html

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    Hopefully this time that squirrel gets the nut.
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...limate-change/
    The question is significant for two reasons. First, climate skeptics and deniers have often accused scientists of exaggerating the threat of climate change, but the evidence shows that not only have they not exaggerated, they have underestimated. This is important for the interpretation of the scientific evidence, for the defense of the integrity of climate science, and for public comprehension of the urgency of the climate issue. Second, objectivity is an essential ideal in scientific work, so if we have evidence that findings are biased in any direction—towards alarmism or complacency—this should concern us We should seek to identify the sources of that bias and correct them if we can.

    In our new book, Discerning Experts, we explored the workings of scientific assessments for policy, with particular attention to their internal dynamics, as we attempted to illuminate how the scientists working in assessments make the judgments they do. Among other things, we wanted to know how scientists respond to the pressures—sometimes subtle, sometimes overt—that arise when they know that their conclusions will be disseminated beyond the research community—in short, when they know that the world is watching. The view that scientific evidence should guide public policy presumes that the evidence is of high quality, and that scientists’ interpretations of it are broadly correct. But, until now, those assumptions have rarely been closely examined.

    We found little reason to doubt the results of scientific assessments, overall. We found no evidence of fraud, malfeasance or deliberate deception or manipulation. Nor did we find any reason to doubt that scientific assessments accurately reflect the views of their expert communities. But we did find that scientists tend to underestimate the severity of threats and the rapidity with which they might unfold.

    Among the factors that appear to contribute to underestimation is the perceived need for consensus, or what we label univocality: the felt need to speak in a single voice. Many scientists worry that if disagreement is publicly aired, government officials will conflate differences of opinion with ignorance and use this as justification for inaction. Others worry that even if policy makers want to act, they will find it difficult to do so if scientists fail to send an unambiguous message. Therefore, they will actively seek to find their common ground and focus on areas of agreement; in some cases, they will only put forward conclusions on which they can all agree.

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    One of the country’s biggest climate denier groups just did an about-face

    Until now, the pro-business group has also supported U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Agreement.

    In 2017, it funded a
    highly criticized report on the consequences of meeting the commitments of the pact.

    The report paints a bleak picture of economic downturn and was used by President Trump as evidence for pulling the U.S. out of the pact.

    just before Trump took the first formal step to pull the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement,

    the lobbying group quietly updated its website with a brand new stance on the matter.

    A page led “
    Our Approach to Climate Change” now reads:

    “Greater collaboration between governments and businesses is essential to build the best models to tackle climate challenges,

    which is why

    the Chamber supports U.S. participation in the Paris Agreement”.

    https://grist.org/article/one-of-the...ampaign=beacon

    too ing late, assholes!



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    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...limate-change/
    The question is significant for two reasons. First, climate skeptics and deniers have often accused scientists of exaggerating the threat of climate change, but the evidence shows that not only have they not exaggerated, they have underestimated. This is important for the interpretation of the scientific evidence, for the defense of the integrity of climate science, and for public comprehension of the urgency of the climate issue. Second, objectivity is an essential ideal in scientific work, so if we have evidence that findings are biased in any direction—towards alarmism or complacency—this should concern us We should seek to identify the sources of that bias and correct them if we can.

    In our new book, Discerning Experts, we explored the workings of scientific assessments for policy, with particular attention to their internal dynamics, as we attempted to illuminate how the scientists working in assessments make the judgments they do. Among other things, we wanted to know how scientists respond to the pressures—sometimes subtle, sometimes overt—that arise when they know that their conclusions will be disseminated beyond the research community—in short, when they know that the world is watching. The view that scientific evidence should guide public policy presumes that the evidence is of high quality, and that scientists’ interpretations of it are broadly correct. But, until now, those assumptions have rarely been closely examined.

    We found little reason to doubt the results of scientific assessments, overall. We found no evidence of fraud, malfeasance or deliberate deception or manipulation. Nor did we find any reason to doubt that scientific assessments accurately reflect the views of their expert communities. But we did find that scientists tend to underestimate the severity of threats and the rapidity with which they might unfold.

    Among the factors that appear to contribute to underestimation is the perceived need for consensus, or what we label univocality: the felt need to speak in a single voice. Many scientists worry that if disagreement is publicly aired, government officials will conflate differences of opinion with ignorance and use this as justification for inaction. Others worry that even if policy makers want to act, they will find it difficult to do so if scientists fail to send an unambiguous message. Therefore, they will actively seek to find their common ground and focus on areas of agreement; in some cases, they will only put forward conclusions on which they can all agree.
    Twotons.. cousin of Boutons.

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    Didnt say anything about acting. Climate change doesn't tell you how you must act. It's always your decision. A male is a male and a female is a female. Those are scientific facts.
    A male is usually XY. A female is usually XX. Those are scientific facts.
    XXY, X... continue are variations of sex chromosomes that .... are usually associated with....

    Because a person is XX does not mean they want to wear dresses and have sex with XY. Behavioral differences are much more difficult to explain with science.
    But you got a male is a male. Thanks for that.

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    Warming is only one aspect of climate change, which is the more accurate term. Ocean warming destabilizes the jet stream, which can lead to freak cold snaps in North America.
    The overall warming leads to an instability of ocean currents as well. Water can hold vast amounts of heat energy and when the ocean currents change paths, the climate in an area can become very different as well. Rain patterns and temperatures can completely change how we farm and or cause the vegetation in an area to change. Along with coastal habitation, I think these changes will lead to the most drastic short term changes as far as $ impact. When we build infrastructure based on a certain type of climate ( which we have) and the climate changes rapidly it costs $.
    I think people living next to water will feel the greatest monetary impact. Distribution of water will become a bigger issue. Imo red team chooses to treat this on a geological scale in order to put off having to deal with it. “Oh well, at some point continents will shift” If we were still mobile hunter gatherers we would most likely find it easier to adapt. But we are not.

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    the solar cycle is well known and is factored into every model

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    Climate change exposes future generations to life-long health harm

    A child born today faces multiple and life-long health harms from climate change - growing up in a warmer world with risks of food shortages, infectious diseases, floods and extreme heat

    Climate change is already harming people’s health by increasing the number of extreme weather events and exacerbating air pollution

    if nothing is done to mitigate it, its impacts could burden an entire generation with disease and illness throughout their lives.

    “Children are particularly vulnerable to the health risks of a changing climate.

    Their bodies and immune systems are still developing, leaving them more susceptible to disease and environmental pollutants,”

    “Without immediate action from all countries

    to cut greenhouse gas emissions, gains in wellbeing and life expectancy will be compromised, and

    climate change will come to define the health of an entire generation,”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-health/climate-change-exposes-future-generations-to-life-long-health-harm-idUSKBN1XN2WQ?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&utm _source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Fe ed%3A+reuters%2FhealthNews+%28Reuters+Health+News% 29

    Ain't no country gonna do significant mitigation of its pollution,

    so destructive business as usual (Capitalists gorge on more $Ts) will keep the planet on steady trajectory downwards.

    100Ms will die, $Ts lost in planetary (property) wealth, etc, etc.



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    the solar cycle is well known and is factored into every model
    Sure thing pal.

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    Sure thing pal.
    Says the man of science.

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    Climate whiplash. Tree ring research seems to indicate weather volatility has increased dramatically in the last 60 years:

    https://e360.yale.edu/features/clima...re-on-the-rise

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    A male is usually XY. A female is usually XX. Those are scientific facts.
    XXY, X... continue are variations of sex chromosomes that .... are usually associated with....

    Because a person is XX does not mean they want to wear dresses and have sex with XY. Behavioral differences are much more difficult to explain with science.
    But you got a male is a male. Thanks for that.
    I have no idea what you're even arguing here. You went off the rails. Variations are called that for a reason.
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    Climate whiplash. Tree ring research seems to indicate weather volatility has increased dramatically in the last 60 years:

    https://e360.yale.edu/features/clima...re-on-the-rise
    Ah so it started before I was born. Not my problem.

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    I have no idea what you're even arguing here. You went off the rails. Variations are called that for a reason.
    That genes in themselves do not determine behavior.
    Environment acts on genetic material therefore behavior is more complex.
    You said a male is a male. What does this even mean?

    And genes themselves can be confusing. XX. XY. Wait a bit... what’s going on here.
    This is all relatively new.

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    That genes in themselves do not determine behavior.
    Environment acts on genetic material therefore behavior is more complex.
    You said a male is a male. What does this even mean?

    And genes themselves can be confusing. XX. XY. Wait a bit... what’s going on here.
    This is all relatively new.
    Did you mean by themselves?

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