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you haven't responded about george's willingness to lie?
george invaded his ground. stalked him to it.
you haven't responded about george's willingness to lie?
Does one have to file a motion or something on the street?
in florida you gotta call "dibs"
What if you start the fight and the other person is unarmed.....well, other than skittles.
I also find it funny that Martin may have been high as well.....Zimmerman got beat up by a stoned 17 year old that just wanted to eat candy.
Has he been charged with stalking? Don't think the elements are met, but I could be wrong. Perhaps aggravated stalking, if Flordia has such a charge. I don't think he has been charged with stalking. However, stand you ground does not apply to stalking. It only applies if you are in fear for your life or severe bodily harm.
Which lie? I was waiting for a link. If you could be more specific, I will be happy to respond.
now you know how martin felt.
anytime you're ready.
No, but you have to assert stand your ground if you want to use is as an affirmative defense. I doubt Martin will be asserting that or anything else any time soon. Therefore, the argument is nonsensical.
You have proof that Zimmerman started the fight? Sorry but getting out of your car proves nothing. These witnesses certainly didn't give any new insight into who started the fight.
As far as I know, he was never charged with anything ever.
Can't say the same for Zimmerman.
Did he give a statement before he died? How do you know how he felt. Maybe he was mad and pissed off and decided to confront Zimmerman. Certainly would not be the first time a teenager lost his cool and did somthing stupid.
So do you think that if Zimmerman had stayed in his car and listened to what the 911 dispatcher had said, Martin would still have been killed that night?
yep, only 2 people know and one of them is dead.
now we're left with one side of the story. that story is coming from a guy that already lied in court.
anytime you're ready.
Again, do you think if Zimmerman wouldn't have gotten out of his car that Martin would still be dead?
Martin was asking for it.
Look at the way he was dressed!
But that was not the discussion. Clambake claims that Martin was justified under stand your ground. I am just asking that he back it up.
Zimmerman certainly has a case under stand your ground. I am glad we agree.
I don't think Zimmerman's statements to police are public yet, or if they are I haven't seen them. But his lawyer did question that investigator about them at the bond hearing. Seems like he claimed that after the dispatcher told him not to follow that he started walking back towards his car. I think the investigator said that he did claim that to the police, but that they disputed whether or not that was true.
This is going to come down to a timeline on how they came face to face. The defense is going to claim that Martin doubled back after running and confronted Zimmerman on his way back to his car, which very well could be exactly what happened, but there doesn't seem to be any witnesses to this, at least not one who saw it clearly. So they're going to have to use the two calls (Zimmerman's to police and Martin's to his GF/friend) and any other way to get the timing.
After stalking Martin with a gun, I can't really agree.
Martin could have a claim, but he's conveniently dead.
If only Martin had a gun that night too....
Have they decided if Zimmerman was in or out of his vehicle when the dispatcher told him not to follow?
I'm surprised he didn't......what with the hoodie and all.
does it matter? george was going to do what george wanted to do.
Doesn't matter what I think might have happened. If Martin had never been born that he would never have been shot that night. Correct?
Your recital of the facts are so off it does not surprise me that you have the opinion that you do.
The dispatcher, after Zimmerman left his car, told Zimmerman that he did not need to follow Martin, who was the suspect at the time. Zimmerman than said ok. We have no evidence at this point that suggests who started the fight at this point.
If I tell someone I am going to kill them, and then do nothing about it and then they come and attack me, they will be guilty, there will be no stand your ground law admissible here.
The problem with the case you want to argue is that you believe that Zimmerman was the agressor and if he was, we will never know for sure because the only testimony that comes out is Zimmerman's. Unless there is a smoking gun. However, witnesses that change their stories becuase of wathcing tv are not credible witnesses. No lawyer will rely on that.
we're left with the story from the guy that already lied in court.
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